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^^ Actually I concur, the Viz English publications are really really good (despite the editing out of some harsh, badass profanity from Vegeta and nudity throughout) and definetly worth buying.
That's because you have to use IRC.
Yep, IRC for #lurk. I'll see if I can find any DDL links for you.
And can a mod move this thread to the Otaku Cafe??
I'm searching of a pic of Son-Goku in different clothes. He is wearing a Turban and a blue gi while carrying an umbrella. He is wearing it at Dragonball Ep. 133. I would like to find him with the turban and without?
Why do people always bash DBZ... is it because of the Anime?
EDIT: Alright, here you go. Page 1, page 2, page 3, page 4, page 5, page 6, page 7. Those are from kanzenban #12 or tankobon # 14, however you wanna divide it. The chapter wasn't in color, so neither was Goku or his outfit, so if you want color, the anime is the best you have. But those are all the pages in which Goku appears in that uniform in the series, I believe.
Last edited by Imitorar; February 20, 2009 at 01:29 AM.
The original series (before Raditz's arrival) was better than DBZ in my opinion. Besides having a better pace and the fact that human characters weren't ignored, there was a lot more strategy and interesting (non-energy) attacks during fights. My favourite fight in the entire series has to be the final match between Goku and Tien. I loved the climax when Goku lost when he was hit by a car!
I liked the King Piccolo arc the most in Dragonball. The Frieza Arc was very very good but I still don't think it measured up to the King Piccolo arc.
I felt that all the characters got time in the spotlight instead of Goku and Vegeta.
Last edited by Onomatopoeia; February 22, 2009 at 01:30 PM.
I dunno, I enjoy even what Dragon Ball became after the Saiyans. It really IS practically two different series', I easily understand why Toei decided to add the Z (what's funny is that Toriyama decided to differentiate between the two phases of the story by using the last letter of the alphabet because he wanted the series to end quickly. Things obviously didn't happen that way.)
The human characters slowly becoming obsolete didn't bother me in the Frieza saga, when most of them were dead anyway, and at least Krillin and Piccolo were still useful. By Cell it was worse, with not only Chiaotzu, but even Yamcha (he was done when he took Goku to get his medicine) and Tien (when he tried to hold off Cell with the Kikoho after Cell absorbed Android #17), and then even Krillin (when he tried to destroy Cell Perfect after Cell absorbed Android #18) slowly phased out of the story. But still, the generational "passing down the mantle" feel of the last three volumes of the Cell saga were enough for me, the series seemed supposed to focus more on the father-son relationships between Goku and Gohan, and Vegeta and Trunks, respectively. And there were only about 4 volumes between when Tien and Krillin were phased out and the end of the Cell saga, so the uselessness of the humans wouldn't have been so unbearable.
But the Buu saga... The fights were dull, the villain was a pointless combination of Cell and Frieza (the invulnerability of Cell, the imposingness of the Frieza), with no motivation or character, with Goku brought back to life in an extraordinarily idiotic way, Gohan's character altered and cheapened, the introduction of the Fusion crutch (the Super Saiyan crutch got bad enough), the further cheapening of Super Saiyan (the other three doing it was bad enough, Super Saiyan 2 was bad enough, but at least that had build up. Super Saiyan 3 came out of NOWHERE), the relative dullness of the story (neither the thrills and adventure of the Frieza saga or the original series, or the action and drama of the Cell saga), and an abysmally unsatisfying ending, etc. I could go on and on about how much I loathe the Buu saga.
To me, Dragon Ball may have begun to shift from adventure and comedy to action/adventure and drama, and then slowly to action and drama, but the shift somehow seemed smooth, and I enjoyed the series despite it becoming farther and farther from its original incarnation. There was always something that made the story riveting and compelling. At least, for the first 35 volumes. I try to ignore the existence of the last 7 volumes, the Buu saga. I mean, the Cell saga had such a conclusive and beautiful ending that it seemed a crime to push the series on further, especially when the stagnation ended up getting the point where there were few (if any) redeeming factors yet. I consider everything through Cell to be true Dragon Ball. As for Buu, well, I consider that to be a small step above Dragonball GT.
I agree with you Imitorar!
Dragonball was awesome. The storyline changed and unexpected things happened. The character Goku was always developing into a greater individual but at a certain point of Dragonball Z it was just that they created new power levels for the Saiyans. There was no adventure just simple fights. The combination of different asian legends, myths and so on was fantastic. Actually what I liked most in the whole story was that the ways of Goku, his friends and foes were always crossing. There was no one who suddenly popped up, died and the story was over. For example Emperor Pilaf is always a part of the DB Universe. He never really vanished. He is always coming back and it is always an amusement for the reader. In the storyline of Dragonball Z you have this also until a certain point but for me the best plot is in Dragonball.
Last edited by Ulgen; February 22, 2009 at 06:51 PM.
Guys! Does Anyone have High Quality scans of the Tank (full) covers?
I watched this anime when I was young, and I was really into it. I even imitated the Kamehameha! Haha
Now I'm reading through the manga, but I realised that Volume 39 (RAW) is missing... Does anyone have it? If have please help upload.
Last edited by trunterzx; March 29, 2009 at 01:57 PM.
what is up with the world. seriously...... I could become a kamikaze airplane pilot, if giving my life away 2 years ago at the filming of Dragon Ball Evolution, would prevent the movie from existing..