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So a question going around is why do so many people hate Raki. There is no shortage of good reasons for this but another one in particular is that Raki is not only emasculating for the male gender but he even fails as the cliche action hero. He fails on many levels but let's be honest he's the Krillin of Claymore. End of discussion.
Krillin saw a bit of action in Dragon Ball and the early part of DBZ, however once we got to the Android saga he was just, well, there. He trained every single arc but he didn't achieve anything because not only was he weak he couldn't/didn't even fight. Goku and Vegeta, thousands of times more powerful than this loser got their asses beat. Why? Cause they actually did the most fighting. Krillin was a throwaway that Toriyama didn't have the heart to scratch and Raki is the same for Yagi.
Raki is so overrated and useless that it's plainly obvious to even readers who aren't seasoned in the realm of literature should be able to see it. Let's open the floor to character assassination, sort of my area.
Chapter 115 served as a weak attempt to elevate Raki from pathetic male add-on to powerful male warrior. It didn't work. It takes more than training and knocking over a bunch of mooks to make you a badass. Fangirls love to blow things out of proportion and they certainly took the cake with this Raki thing. Let's rewind the clock to when Raki met Renee. So Raki took down a Yoma. So what? That doesn't make him strong. Renee stated quite plainly that it's not unusual for humans to kill yoma. The only real difficulty is finding yoma and that's largely the reason Claymore are employed. Raki took down a yoma. So can a hundred or so other warriors in the region. Yet the fandumb went crazy over Raki taking down a yoma. I didn't know average was the new badass.
A few chapters later, boom Raki gets captured. Last time I checked a strong character is able to overcome obstacles not fall victim to them at everyturn. We get a brief glimpse of Raki flexing his C average and then boom he's a damsel in distress locked up next to Zelda and princess Peach. But don't tell the fangirls because oh he's uber powerful. Now getting back to chapter 115, people are going crazy because he fought the same twins that Miria did and oh wow he's so strong. Oh wow, oh wow. To which I say as if.
Fans have a take on the battle. I have another. Mine is more inline with what actually happened. 1) It was Raki's own admission that they were going easy on him and he also admitted that he still had trouble and 2) Claymores are conditioned to not attack humans, this conditioning is strongest during childhood so of course they're not going to be able to take down Raki while battling this psychological hurdle. [No one needs to waste my time or yours by questioning me. I'm quite exceptional with adult psychology and early childhood psychology so to move this along take solace in the fact that I'm correct.] 3) Raki did not defeat the twins. Raki survived for no other reason than the twins calling it quits when they realized that Raki was not with the MIB.
While on the topic of the MIB, so many people said wow Raki is so strong. Yeah I'll bet. It doesn't take much combat experience to beat someone who has very little in their own right. The majority of the MIB don't even engage in combat. They're teachers, scientists, and researchers. I know some people didn't read that so I'll say it again. The "majority" of the MIB don't engage in combat. I didn't say all of them. Naturally there has to be some who teach the Claymore in the way of the blade. But you also have those who are scouts for the MIB, scientists, those who teach Claymore basic information about yoma, yoki, and so forth. I wouldn't be surprised if Raki beat up a couple IT guys.
And finally even if I give Raki some play it isn't anymore play than what I would give to the same mooks he's beating down. I'm not going to give a character any cred for doing what they are supposed to do. Based on events within the title and conventions of the genre, if a character achieves something it's either their damn job or something that I expect of them. If a hero saves the world he doesn't get anymore props than the million or so other heroes doing the exact same thing, it's his job. If a character trains to take down an opponent I'll give them a sticker but they're not about to get a trophy for something expected of them.
Raki trained with Isley for what, seven years? He takes down a yoma and suddenly everyone goes crazy. Taking down a yoma isn't something that puts you on the leaderboards. Rabona is filled with guys who can take down yoma. Nevermind the fact that if Raki needs to train with an Abyssal One just to be strong enough to take down a yoma, well that's nothing to brag about. That's like someone training under a Shaolin Monk but they're only good enough to take down the school bully. If Raki displayed power on a level to take down an awakened being then I would say whoa he's a badass. But taking down a yoma is something any warrior anywhere in the region can do. Only issue humans have with taking down yoma is finding out where they are. You get a guy to build a yoki detector and Claymore are all but obsolete, only needed to take down awakened beings. So Raki took on the same set of twins that Miria took on. Sort of easy to fight an opponent who isn't actually trying to kill you don't you think.
My issue with Raki is further intensified by the fact that Yagi is trying so hard to make this character a likable tough guy and well, he's not. Raki is still the same emasculating male character he was when Claymore first started. Throw in a few generic moments for him to flex that C average strength and he's still the same emasculating male character he was when Claymore first started. If Krillin from DBZ does the fusion dance with Joey Wheeler from Yu-Gi-Oh! they form Raki. Simple as that. We have this character who gets a few shots in the spotlight but in the grand scheme of things he remains an unnecessary byproduct of broadening a cast which already has plenty of interesting characters but who must forever remain underdeveloped and underexplored to provide airtime for a character who is overrated and who does little more than underdeliver.
a paraphrasing repost of my response from on another site:
Also, Adult Raki was saved from death by "Child-Midget" Priscilla, too
If it wasn't for her, pulling him out of the way, he'd be dead, killed by the Destroyer's Huge Projectile piercing through his body.
actually, now that I'm thinking about it, Raki's Power Level was also discussed in this old chapter too, as to whether he participated in killing the powerful and dangerous Hellcats, or if Priscilla did all of the "work", and he merely got hit with the "debris" of two small projectiles in his shoulder from Priscilla's battling/killing the Hellcats for him.
as if he was killing the hellcats or even helping priscilla in doing so, that would make him seem to be inhuman as one would think a human incapable of taking on the hellcats, which left even Clare+Helen+Deneve exhausted and panting, which is nearly the same thing that's happening now, with his sparring with the TAITs. deja vu discussion all over again, lol.
Last edited by HegemonKhan; June 16, 2011 at 01:31 PM.
I hate Raki because I watch the anime before I read the manga. I hate kid Raki's dubbed voice. Once I watch an anime, the voice get stamped in to the character when I read the manga also. That's good and bad, for example I think Riful's dubbed voice is just what I would expect Riful should be. But Raki's voice is just so damn annoying!
As a character, I think he's like the mascot or one that is used as a tool to enhance or give insight in to other characters background or motive. Basicly Raki's roll is needed, but the character itself is blargh. I allways sees Claymore as a story between Clare, Priscilla and Teresa; and Raki as an after thought.
Last edited by Khorr; June 16, 2011 at 11:19 PM.
If you examine Raki purely based on physical attributes and his abilities to handle a sword, then of course he pales in comparison to all Claymores and perhaps other male warriors in Rabona. In fact, on that basis, he comes out comical and worthy of ridicule. However, Yagi didn't intend to make him a Herculean hero of legend. He served as Clare's mirror to remind her of her past and what she once was, a weak little child whom a power Claymore once saved.
He allowed her to reacquaint herself with her own emotions and feelings. Theresa's death gave Clare's life a purpose and a direction, but it also left a deep void within. Raki's companionship filled that emptiness and made her feel loved, appreciated and perhaps human, once more. Recall that Raki prevented Clare from awakening, not with magic or trickery but with simple words of affection and tenderness.
Post the conflict in Pieta, we see that true to his word, Raki has grown in strength and has taken a new charge, Priscilla. I rather like the picture that Yagi has portrayed. He's matured into a strong young man, free of of cynicism and anger.
Like many of you, I hated the character. After re-reading the Manga several times, I understood his purpose and appreciated his part in the story.
I will show you why your argument doesn't hold any water.
Killing yoma for free -> The Organization looses money
Killing a lots of yoma for free -> The Organization looses a whole lot of money.
The Organization loosing a whole lot of money -> I'm not sure but probably the reason the current generation of warriors are being as week as they are.
In other words Raki hurt the Organization in a way that no other character (since Teresa) has.
On the other hand, there's a lot of questions about Raki that need answering. How did he find about the true nature of Isley and Priscilla? How did he react? How did he learn of the nature of the awakened beings and their connection to half-yoma warriors? What else does he know? And most importantly, what is he going to do with his newfound knowledge? Answering these questions is far more interesting than going through another claymore-orphan story.
Last edited by HegemonKhan; June 17, 2011 at 04:04 PM.
I would be more intrested in more background from Teresa's generation then Raki. It's fine to give Raki his spotlight however but I think in the end he'll be used as a sacrificial lamb once his role been played out.
Like Ilena's childhood, what happend in her past that made her so focus and able to create the quicksword. It must be something horrible and worth reading. What were the dynamic between Teresa and Irene, the two knows each other rather well and even regard each other as friends I say. What role did Rubel and Rafaela played in that era. How common and powerful were the AB's compare to now. It's just a lot of history I think would be really intresting.
Last edited by Khorr; June 17, 2011 at 10:57 AM.
Actually I enjoy seeing the female cast kicking ass better than the guys. I enjoy seeing these strong women tear ass on the battlefield.
Last edited by HegemonKhan; June 17, 2011 at 04:12 PM.
Well, I don't blame Clare for kissing her Raki-chan, and though many males see him as a crybaby because of how he was as a little kid and because he cries at the start of the anime, girls seem much more likely to have a crush on him.
Lots of boys might put on an act of respecting a girl, but Raki proves his manliness to his lady by protecting her from the guards in Rabona and especially from Ophelia. Not surprisingly Clare kissed him in that story arc, after he didn't even scream when he was being tortured by Ophelia because it would have cost Clare her life. He's husband and daddy material, he's the ideal of the knight who comes and sweeps a girl off her feet and takes care of her, and boys who are so perfect probably don't exist all that often in real life.
"According to the 2800 women surveyed in the study, honesty, trustworthiness, love, respect, humour and kindness were the most important attributes a man could bring to a relationship.
But further questioning revealed what really mattered the most to them was sexual attraction, good looks, sharing similar interests and masculinity."
He needs to be more useful tbh.
I wonder why he didn't go fighting with Clare, Miria and the others in Chapter 131, after all he can kick out Yoma, so it was expectable that he could do some dents on the Awakened Beings like Clarice does XD
Regarding the comparison with Krillin : yes, he was just there after a while, but this is actually more than can be said about some of the other characters. Krillin may have been useless, but he was well aware of it and had no illusion about his chances. He's the guy who didn't hesitate to attack someone much more powerful if it meant buying his family some time to escape.
This at least deserves some respect.
Other than chibi-Clare, Raki is the only character who has shown any sympathy for Claymores from the start. Even the guards of Rabona used to discriminate against Claymores pre-timeskip, considering them only as half-monsters (rather than half-humans). Also, while he does cry a lot, it often comes off as crying for them, which is something no human would normally do (remember when Clare actually requested that the villagers bury the unknown dying warrior from the 'Witch's maw' arc, with the respect they'd give a human)
The fact that Raki can kill Yoma should be taken with a grain of salt is true, since Renee said it's not impossible. What we don't know however is how easily a human can dispatch a Yoma. Raki did it very easily, and the Yoma felt it was like fighting a Claymore. That's actually a more relevant hint of his skill than the fight itself. Sure Yoma are weak compared to ABs, but at least Raki should be able to avoid getting killed : while he can't protect Clare, he can protect himself so she can focus on her fight instead of putting herself at risk for him. Sure he's not useful per say, but he's not the complete liability he used to be, which is probably enough for him.
There are people who actually like Raki?? I bet if they started reading the manga before he showed up as an adult they wouldn't have the same opinion...
me, being not overly strong for a guy, kinda like him since he kinda represents us guys who aren't that big or powerful and i like strong women. so yeah, i kinda like that he's emotional and not as strong or more often then not, stronger, then the lead woman.