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Welcome to the Amateur Manga Hangout thread^^
Here's the place to chat in general about Doujinshi, your original works and any questions that don't need their own thread. Relax a little and find common people
Hey there! Dr.Doobious here of drdoobious.com (basically just click my sig and you can find everything that I have out at the moment) I was actually intending to post a little (long) post regarding Amateur manga, and manga hosting sites on mangahelpers but didn't really know where to do it, luckily this showed up! yay!
I'll try to keep this short as I hate long winded posts. And nobody reads them haha.
I recently (two or three months ago) started my online manga site, with really high hopes. There's a huge set of online manga sites hosting tons of illegally posted material, I figured they'd be more than happy to support an amateur manga artist by hosting the comic on their site. I did some google searches and sent out a ton of emails with that simple request. I would get free promotions, they would get free legal content, a win win.
I was pretty surprised to find that only one site (thespectrum.net) got back to me willing to help me out. And he very much so helped me out, linking to my site directly for the first five days, before hosting the comic on his site. Now I've seen mangahelpers post in the upper ban a few amateur manga's, but those seem to only be the naruto spin offs and the DBZ one. I almost felt like I should just do a 10 page naruto doujin just to get some notice, but really what would be the point of that? For me it's more fun to create my own universe.
I was just wondering what other people thought of this (those doing amateur manga and those not). Should manga sites be more open to helping out online manga artists? I obviously feel they should, cause really hosting naruto/bleach etc isn't doing those artists any good, so why not host something that'd be helpful?
Thanks for your input, both of you!
Waterdroplet, your introduction sounds highly interesting and I'm very happy to have someone here who can give a little advice to others. Publishing your own comic is still a progress in a very early stage in western countries, so very few info to find about it.
If you have a little time on your hand, instead of answering many PMs - why not write a guide or info thread about creating your own manga? Maybe containing a linklist to tutorials and helpful websites would also be a nice idea (others can help adding links). I would sticky such a thread since I think that it would be appreciated much by our amateur mangaka. There're surely a lot of Newbies who don't know how to start and others who already started but have no clue how to proceed further.
Doobious (do I need the doctor title to call you? ), I think the problem is very simple. Most mangafanpages are dedicated to the professional works published in Japan. They're simply not focusing on amateur and/or western works which is nothing you can blame on them. Mangahelpers also has it's focus on officially published manga, slowly opening to manhwa and manhua as well.
Amateur comics usually fit better into so called "underground comic" scenes till they're recognized by the public. There're actually quite a lot of such communities online, just very few with a focus on Eastasian-influenced comics. I think it's no use to try forcing yourself into the "normal" manga scene community since there's a traditional split between professional works and doujinshi (amateur works).
Also you have to understand the history behind the scanlation community. Manga were originally hard to get in western countries, I remember those times quite well. There was a blackmarket before the internet boom already, especially on anime fansubs. Since the internet grew such rapidly the people and groups who worked on bringing manga to the western world also grew rapidly. We're now stepping over a borderline since manga are - theoretically - recognized enough to not need scanlations to such extend anymore but still the groups continue for various reasons (e.g. rampant discontent with the western publishers or simply to still bring new, unlicensed series to the fans).
That's not it. The ones who get shouted are the ones with an own board or are active and regulary releasing here at Mangahelpers. It doesn't matter whether it's a fanmanga or an original concept. We just started out here with fanmanga (which received quite a lot attention, e.g. leading to our Raruto MH fansub, heh) and have still only few original works posted.Quote:
All sections on MH work with member activity. A new subsection will be created when the interest and activity is clearly there and they get closed when it's becoming inactive. Sometimes members ask us for a subboard, sometimes we recognize that a single thread isn't enough anymore for a topic. In the same way, the more activity throught the members, the bigger a section becomes and the more we can do for a section topic. That's a simple basic of a forums community.
This goes for the Amateur manga section as well. Originally this section was made for fanmanga of the series we support here at MH. But lately more original works get posted here, that's why I thought a little reorganization made sense to support this kind of selfmade comics more^^
But it needs the activity and interest to become bigger. Or simply put: Post here regulary, get a little fandome - then we shout your releases like we do with Raruto & Co (and we actually shouted a original work last year for quite a long time, but the project became sadly inactive). Bring this section to life and we'll make it bigger, with e.g. a workshop subboard for tutorials or we simply split fanmanga and original works. This thread here is also for you to give suggestions - but again: We can't do anything when it's staying as sleepy as it is at the moment but we're open to built up when the members show us that they want it
Let's finetune this section a little more, with e.g. tutorials and info threads. I'll bring up to include the info that we're more open to original works now in the next news post, okay?
Actually we're playing with the idea to have a quarterly fanmanga contest similar to our art contests - would you like that? The plan was a short manga of 2-8 pages about a given topic. We're currently having a summer break for the art contest and will reorganize them till september, so if a Amateur manga contest sounds interesting to you, feel free to give suggestions on it and I'll bring it up to the staff into the contest discussion.
Last edited by saladesu; May 09, 2011 at 08:56 AM.
I certainly hope more people will flock to this area, as original ideas are what is most important in my mind. You can pay tribute to someone's work you like by drawing characters from their stories, or writing alternate stories based on their works, but only the individual can create a story unique to them.
Oh, I wrote two general threads before about how to pub. manga:
Here and here
but that was based on a personal question so it might not apply to others. But, the main thing about trying to improve manga drawing is to read more manga and practice by drawing your own. Once you get the feel of it, then start following formal rules for manga drawing. That's how I did, and I'm using the formal rule for the first time for this contest.
Where to find the rules? Read pro-level manga and study them (mainly- how they draw, use screen tones, angle, lighting, koma layouts, how they use space, framing). In addition, PM people who tried out contests before. I find guidebooks too hard to follow even if it's well written. There's no easy way to learn manga other than a practice.
What the pro-manga editor said the most to me was to "practice" even just drawing straight lines. Even if it seems tedious, little practices can improve your skills the most.
I don't really recommend analog manga for people abroad since the materials are hard to get and very expensive in the long run. However, for the first timers, I recommend analog more since you will need to know how everything works. I switched to CG, but it's still a new field even in Japan. So, I better win a contest first before I can get back with more clear advice/guide. However, winning a contest is a battle between more than a thousand applicants so I don't know if we'll win in the first round.
If you guys are wondering which manga I read, well tons. But, major ones I recommend you study are (for those aiming for general shonen action manga):
Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles
Just pick what you liked or impressed you and study it.
I just added a thread,
How to Draw Manga for anyone wondering about which materials you will need to get to produce manga at a pro-level.
Last edited by Waterdroplet; July 12, 2008 at 07:25 PM.
Thanks a lot to whoever posted that amateur manga banner! Hopefully it'll bring more peoples to this area!
in the section rule its said that no pornographic material. so is ecchi content banned? coz the current manga that i'm planning has a lot of panty shots and boob shots. its kinda like to-love-ru or sekirei. so is it not allowed?
Last edited by ~FrienD~; October 18, 2009 at 09:28 AM.
Something I found on shueishas jumps website, that might be interesting for young artists (not that anyone reads here xD): the jump treasure new artist prize as well as other such competitions that don't run yet/atm with specifications on paper size, pages and where to mail it ^^
So what do you artists think about magazine run competitions?
Hi this is the future of manga and is basically a hangout for asspireing mangaka
i my self want to be a mangaka and so i decided to make a forum hangout so that everyone can post there drawings or talk about their current proccess in the manga world
These are just a few sketches i did a couple of weeks ago
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Please help!! I'm new here so I have problems on how to attach images to a thread... Like that spoiler ones... How can I do that??
The [spoiler] tags put the image in a spoiler box, while the [img] tags make your image visible. If you just want to hyperlink to your image, you can use [url] tags in the same fashion as the other tags demonstrated above. All vB code tags are explained here.
If you ever see coding in a post that you want to learn to do, a good way to see how it is done is to quote the post and look at what that person used to make that post.
Hi guys and girls !
Just a quick question.
For ages now I've been wanting to write a manga/comic. I have had dozens of ideas in my mind , I feel im ready to take things to the next level and form the story up. but till present I've been procrastinating .
I want to know where to go next once I have conceived this idea , do I write the whole story at once ? do i start of with lets say the first chapter with an idea what direction I want to go , and just go with the flow ?
If you are writing a comic , manga or know how real life mangaka and comic book scriptwriters work , could you kindly give me some pointers/advice ? Proffesionals are more than welcome to advise
yup im another new one. im decided to start writing my work out and include sketches. I'll only look for artist if i can't get back to drawing well. This is going to take about a year to get everything planed out. or more. I'm trying to do something abit different from the mainstream.
Hey everyone, im in the middle of writing an amateur manga and i am trying to build a fan base for it. It is called Decade and is basically a supernatural violence and romance genre. the first 7 pages are on http://hellfire117.deviantart.com/
Thanks, let me know what you think (please post comments on deviantart)
why i'm at a writers block right now and i don't know how to get rid of it. That's whats hindering me from doing anything lately. any advice?
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