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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
The host vampire has skills, but he's not unbeatable. But if wears the suit
thats changes alot of things. I believe Kurono or Katou could take him
they both have to team up i think. he hasnt been beat and i want it to stay like that.
i want him to be so good that when he turns on the team he is the main threat and badly to them and big fight ending gantz. the guy is worthy of being main bad guy. i dont want him to be a support character like kato..
HS has leet skills, but he's not the best we have seen. Izumi was superior.
Izumi fought lots and lots of vampires, all at the same time, and won:
Following that fight, HS and the other 3 elite vampires showed up. By then Izumi was not in his best state:
Yet, he still managed to hold his ground against the 4 of them. After killing 3, his suit gave out and it was only then that HS got him:
By the way, I think a lot of people underestimate Katou's strength. Even without the suit he easily beat the shit out of a pro-heavyweight boxer that wanted to rape him. Kei would have gotten his ass handed to him by that teeth-collecting bully at his school had it not been for the suit. Katou vs. Izumi would be a good fight IMO. They're both tall and powerful.
Last edited by El Samurai Guapo; February 02, 2009 at 12:39 AM.
i still disagree lol
kurono is equal to izumi.
sure those tactics were to make them look good when they die.
the fact is izumi could take down them all except hs, he didnt damage him.
i like izumi he kicks ass but even if it was a fair fight hs would win. i believe fighting heaps of numbers the team gets in the way which means they can die and to enage in a fight at one point its got to be one on one but not if there are guns involved. i hope hs gets to prove himself in this mission and show they he can pay thoses bills and even have some credit on the bill lol.
i wish izumi came back too he was cool cold long black hair dude and thats just loveable.
Kurono is not equal to Izumi...
Kurono is good, and have a lot of imagination that helps him in the most difficult times...but Izumi is stronger (and according to the manual, more intelligent).
You mean by fair fight Izumi suitless? if that is the case, then the vampire would win, obviously he is stronger than any human. But with a suit, then Izumi would win, i'm, sure of it.
The suits provide super strenght, but not stamina...i'm sure the vampire Bosses had a lot more stamina than Izumi. He can get tired quickly..if Izumi didn't had fought that army of vampires i'm sure he could kill all those vampire boss douchbags.
Last edited by GAT-X252; February 02, 2009 at 05:53 AM.
haha yea i think this thread is the official proof that izumi could kill hs if host wasn't so damn cheap...hell kei almost did it
i still say no.
i believe kei and izumi were equal because of the oni mission plus izumi got owned and kei didnt.
kei got owned by hs..hs was dodging the speed of light.
i meant by fair fight izumi with a suit on, the big difference is hs could hit izumi and izumi could not hit hs
The Oni only used his lightnings to attack Izumi (did you saw Izumi getting close to the Oni even once?), and Izumi spend all his fight dodging the lightnings...the fight with the TT was different, mainly because he didn't used lightnings that often.
Things like that often happen in Gantz...like why they didn't snipe the Oni Boss instead of fighting him in a melee battle? why they didn't mantain the stealth mode?
By this you mean, Hikawa can move at the speed of light?
Becuase for me...HS was only faster than Kei arm movement.
Host Samurai is grossly over estimated as far as his skill level is concerned. When he showed up with the rest of the vamp bosses and fought against Izumi the only reason he wasn't carved up was because he Izumi had three others to deal with, on top of that he had just finished slaughtering around 100 vamp foot soldiers before hand. If you look carefully you can see that HS stood back for alot of that fight and then once Izumi was down and at his most vulnerable he swoops in and slashes him whilst his back is turned, which you have to admit is a cowardly move.
kinda like what he did with nuri.
yeah but to dodge a flash light being shined at you is hard, normal ppl couldnt do it...yeah the nuri fight he was dodging the 2 beams and from cutting nuri in half made that harder for him because both beams would be close together but they were separate thanks to hs causing nuri attack to go everywhere.
i just think he is a cool calm unknown beautiful character and thats why he deserves lots of credit..at least make him kurono's main rival that would be great.
jayday, dodging the light beam is no different than dodging a sword. Both move at the speed of the arm swinging it.
Basically the only thing HS has demonstrated so far is that he's good at dodging things and cutting people with their backs turned towards him. Nothing significant IMO.
I wouldn't doubt that 1 on 1 Izumi would have beaten him suitless. Izumi never lost a face to face sword fight, even against multiple enemies w/o the suit. I don't feel like looking it up right now, but in one of the previous vampire massacres by Izumi, his suit gave out on him while he was still outnumbered 3 to 1 and Izumi still owned them.
1 on 1 in a "fair fight", there isn't a better swordsman in gantz. By the way, I originally hated Izumi because he killed Tae (which I'm sure was partly due to the fact that she rejected him when he tried asking her out). At the end though, it seems like he had a genuine change of heart, sacrificing himself to save Ryoko, and telling her he was going to take her to Disneyland (as he was dying).....chikusho come on Hoi Hoi, bring him back!!!