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Translations: Bleach 600 by BadKarma
i'm sure i'm not the only who is tired of seeing hs debates in the prediction threads that don't relate to the relevant chapter. so here i am, making a separate thread for the subject.
i am one of the few hs fanboys (he is the uber sexy) here so you should know where i stand. evidence of mad skills:
1. dino mission-
at the end of this mission, we are introduced to our favorite bloodsuckers. i'm only gonna use this mission to support one major difference between him and the other vamps. in this mission, we saw him block an x-gun shot with his pistol. this may have been purely instinctive but it suggests two things: a) it can be repeated and b) even if hs wasn't aware of this possibility when he blocked the shot, he should be aware of it now. this reduces his vulnerability to gantz weapons (assuming they'll be used on him in the future).
2. self-cultivation of martial prowess-
this guy is always looking for ways to improve upon his personal potential. he will review the styles of others and adapt to/adopt them, allowing him to surpass his enemies.
3. sword fighting ability-
there's a reason this guy is called a samurai. the guy successfully took on two yokai samurai who were capable of slicing through the suits without any problems, except that finger and a paper cut on his nose.
this guy has dodged more things than i can think to throw at him. seriously, i wouldn't be surprised if he dodged a nuke.
5. the lure-
if he is unable to trick you into exposing your vulnerabilities with his good looks, he'll sure as hell find other means to do so. see yokai samurai and kurono.
6. the earring-
he has got to be one of five guys who can pull off the seductive earring look.
p.s. stfu, i like rhyming thread titles.
p.p.s. i suggest one of you guys makes a nishi thread. personally, i have very little interest in discussing the punk so i'll leave that to someone else (most likely, george).
I believe he's taking over for Izumi. Antisocial outcast doesn't come much greater than a vamp that doesn't even want to be there.
Personally, I would love to see a match between he and Izumi.
I say skills i doubt it was purely luck when he let his gun take the x-gun blow, and he did take out those sword aliens. I also believe he is at about izumi's level or above.
Skills for sure, he wears no suit
Kurono or Izumi with Gantz suit would kick his ass.
The b**tch is just fast.
He is a vampire...an alien level creature.
He obviously knew of the X Gun worked (at some level)...its not like he used his "L Class" intelligence to deduce the system of the X Gun. The vampires even know the weak points of da Gantz suits.
yea theres no doubt kurono or izumi with suit would kill him but what if he had a suit too?
No, i don't "hate" Hikawa, but i don't think he is that strong...
According to the Manual, the vampires are aliens too...if we see a vampire with a Gantz Suit it would be the same like watching an Onion Alien with a Gantz suit or the Oni Boss...
He already have the nanomachines, if he uses a suit, then he would be really, really powerful.
I highly doubt that Hosty has so little of Vampire Pride that he would wear one of the Suits.
I'm pretty neutral when it comes to him.
Yes he proved his point against Kurono - While he had 0 suit and was unaware of the way the attacked
Yes he proved his point against the Yokai - Still made a deal and had his chick sliced to death
Yes he proved his point against Nura - From behind, little perv
So every good thing he did is linked to something negative...
Meanwhile, I can't deny that the guy is powered up to a fault. I mean he dodged 4 H-Gun shots, but has GAT says, he is still an alien, he'll die of an horrible death, like all Gantzers will, or did....or whatever...
I don't think the 3 S shot at the same time...only Susumu i supose.
1 with the 3 sadist...if I remember correctly.
Then Katou had at least 2 shots directed towards him.
Anyways the point is that yes he is good, but he's not worth more than 20 points, and that is pushing.
20 Points? :0
And why does everyone say he's an alien?
Did I misread when Akira went to that Vampire presentation thing, and they were telling them that Vampires were humans with Nano matchines inside them?
Gantz Manual says that the vampires ARE Aliens...its official.
We already know that the vampires are people only with nanomachines inside them...but they are still aliens!
So...what is an Alien in the Gantz Universe? Is it a joke? Are they truly aliens or just nicknames? is Kurono really a Loser?
HS is a vampire boss, not one of the minions, so I would guess he's worth 30 to 50 points. He can take any member of the current team 1 on 1, suitless. That makes him formidable, but nowhere near Nurari or 1000 arms' level.
As a character, he's pretty interesting. A good match for Izumi, better than a suitless Kei. A match between HS and a healthy, suited Kei would be interesting.
My prediction: A mission starts in the middle of the day and he doesn't have any sun medicine; he teleports and turns into ashes.
I may start a Nishi thread sometime. Been too busy lately. I don't like the sadistic little punk, though. But I do disagree with all the people who think he's a coward just because of his death scene. He's sadistic, mean, cruel and callous. But he's a competent Gantzer. His tactics worked for Izumi and Oka.Quote:
HS definitely has mad skills and is one of the most badass characters in gantz but he would be max 50 points.
Because he is nowhere near as strong as the kitsune(68) or tengu(71) and he would easaly die through a bfg shot (if he wouldn't dodge it with his mad dodging skills).
And he should be more worth than 30 points (or maybe not, Tae was worth 30 points and i don't know if he would be stronger than her)