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Thread: One Piece Volume 53 (ch513-522) Discussion

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    I hope some of them are separated... separate groups.

    In any case, this is chapter is totally pure win.
    Oh, man...not read One Piece spoilers is very satisfactory

    Se entendeu essa frase, entre nessa bagaça

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi Uchiha View Post
    I noticed that sento answered to luffys question, where the people are going after being teleported away by kuma. He said "that any man sent flying by those paws will fly through the sky for three days and three nights". How many days were the strawhats supposed to wait until their ship should have been coated? 3 days, isn't it? maybe it has something to do with it...
    We've seen before that Kuma is a honorable man and if his abilities grant the target's wish by sending them to the location they dreamed of/wish for, then the SH were all thinking about Luffy's words: to separate and meet back in Grove XX (wherever their ship is supposed to be; i forgot :/ ) and continue on their adventures.
    As pointed out by Tobi, the fact that 3 days are needed to coat the ship and that Kuma's ability makes the targets fly for 3 days and 3 nights as well as saving Usopp from PX-1 further accentuates the "idea".

    Therefore, I truly believe that the SH were actually saved by Kuma during this fight which they were obviously losing. Kuma then told Rayleigh not to concern himself about the SH's fate and to get working on the SH's ship's coating.


    If such is the case, why did Kuma save the SH?
    Based on his reply to Rayleigh, it seems like he was asked to or somehow forced to do this...
    Aokiji? Something related to the Ace affairs?
    The past can't be changed be it by only one second... once the trigger has been pulled, there's no way to recall the bullet...

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    looks like this defeat is necessary in order for the strawhats to become stronger before going to the new world
    but i don't think we'll be seeing them being trained, we'll just see them use their new technique when they fight stronger opponents later on, just like when luffy using his gear in the enies lobby arc, zoro with his kyuutouryuu and sanji using his diable jambe
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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    Kuma is a fascinating character. He seems to be helping the Strawhats yet he is supposedly the most loyal of the Shichibukai. Also he is seemingly overpowered.

    Great chapter, Luffy was fantastic in his regret of not being able to do anything to help his Nakama.

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    im depress, SH crew was defeted.

    I think kuma send them to some place safe but I really dont know why

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    It's true!
    Kuma bows down in front of Silver and he calls him: "Dark King" Rayleigh.
    I thought at first that he did that move to speak with SR that is shorter, but I don't think that it's only this.
    Kuma has some kind of reverence towards the old man.
    If you check the Kuma/Moria encounter you will see that Kuma has a different behaviour.

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    do you think that Kuma used to be on Gol D. Roger's ship and is now helping out Rayleigh? but the fact that Rayleigh doesn't trust him is putting me off.. :S
    i think that they will definately gain some knowledge/teamwork/power from losing
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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    Well this is my first post, and i dunno if this was already said, but why if Kuma was sent by Garp to help Luffy? Maybe he knew that Kizaru was attacking Luffy, and he realized that his grandson wasn't ready yet to face an admiral, so he asked Kuma to help because after Thriller Bark we see Sengoku talking to Kuma, and Garp is there so he might have said something back there, like "Why did you let them go?" and Kuma might have said he wanted to help. Well i dunno, it's just my guess =D

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    So, One Piece is finally over...
    Not the ending i expected, but we had a nice time...

    see you


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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    Great chapter! You could feel the emotion and desperation of the crew as things got worst and they lost each member. What really got to me with this chapter in feeling the emotion of teh scene was even after Luffy screamed for Kuma to please stop it, the point that Usopp and Nami were calling out for help. Especially when Nami was calling to Luffy for help.... I mean any other time in the manga when Nami called to Luffy for help, He was there! But this time... he couldn't stop anyone or save anyone!!! Excellent writing Oda!!

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    Actually, I think that the utter defeat was the ideal idea for now.
    If you think about the legacy of the previous arc, you are suposse to remember that Luffy raised his strenght and came up with some new awesome techniques, which was totally helpfull in the winning of enies lobby arc. Also, Sanji and Zoro came up with some new skills. What happened previously the Enies Lobby arc? The defeat by an admiral, Aokiji.

    So, what's next?
    Zoro said, after his defeat by Mihawk, that he was never losing again, but he was. How is he suposse to be right now? I mean, IMO, he would be like:
    "Get stronger, get stronger, get stronger".

    Also, check out Sanji's behaviour at pag. 08 in Chap. 513.
    "Loosing two nakamas right before my eyes", sort like.

    Finally, in the Aokiji defeat, Luffy he couldn't protect ONE nakama, Robin.
    But now, he lost the whole crew.

    So, we suposse that the three main fighters are going to train really hard in the next Arcs, I mean, world rank level.
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    About Kuma being the saviour of SH's..What are the Shichibukais?
    Formers pirate. What few of them have? Values. Honor, pride and some other values, of being a pirate.

    My theory, is not that Kuma used to be on Roger's ship, but used to be on the Dragon ship!
    Why did Kuma never moved a finger about Luffy, and yet, seems to protect them?
    And why does he show lots of respect to the old man but not for the powerful admiral?

    Even so, it's just theory's...But does that not make a little of sense? Think about!


    Cheers,

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Goos View Post
    Actually, I think that the utter defeat was the ideal idea for now.
    If you think about the legacy of the previous arc, you are suposse to remember that Luffy raised his strenght and came up with some new awesome techniques, which was totally helpfull in the winning of enies lobby arc. Also, Sanji and Zoro came up with some new skills. What happened previously the Enies Lobby arc? The defeat by an admiral, Aokiji.

    So, what's next?
    Zoro said, after his defeat by Mihawk, that he was never losing again, but he was. How is he suposse to be right now? I mean, IMO, he would be like:
    "Get stronger, get stronger, get stronger".

    Also, check out Sanji's behaviour at pag. 08 in Chap. 513.
    "Loosing two nakamas right before my eyes", sort like.

    Finally, in the Aokiji defeat, Luffy he couldn't protect ONE nakama, Robin.
    But now, he lost the whole crew.

    So, we suposse that the three main fighters are going to train really hard in the next Arcs, I mean, world rank level.
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    That is true, but I think that it goes further than that. Not only the three main fighters, but the other SHs aswell. They keep being mentioned in the previous arcs about how their current powers aren't enough and how Luffy is putting too much stress on his body to handle it all. Yet he says that as long as he can protect his nakama its okay. His nakama is worried about the price he is paying to get stronger. So I think that this will probably lift them all to get alot stronger as the New World has alot instore for them and they all need to be dependable in being strong enough to handle it. Not since the Enies Lobby arc has everyone gotten stronger to handle the situation. And was again neededing to get stronger to handle teh WG. So I'm thinking that we will see some improvements in Franky, Usopp, Nami and Chopper (serious improvements along with th fighting three)

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    My heart just broke for Luffy.
    And the frames at the end set the new standards for EPIC ENDING.

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    emotional chapter indeed

    I predict they all get seperated and a new arc will be begin - where all of them will look for each other.

    ..damn. brooke - even though his a new member was all out in helping SH's. sigh.

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    Re: One Piece 513 Discussion/514 Predictions

    Why is Kuma so overpowered?

    He practically whooped the strawhats with 1 hand
    Horrendous are the days that I ravage these seas!

    One Piece is the most epic manga out, I kid you not.

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