Gantz 280 Discussion/ 281 Prediction Thread

[warbandit66]

People here are trying to get too much meaning from throwaway panels and simple mistakes made by Oku, he produces the manga to a very high standard so it's only natural that he'll make the odd mistake here and there in terms of both plotholes and inconsistancies in artwork. The thing with manga is it if it's not explicitly mentioned or shown to us it hasn't happened, there's nothing that requires you to go over each page with a fine toothed comb and search for clues in the background.

[Quetz]

That could be true. But it could just as easily be the other way around, which is the whole point of these discussions.

[georgemarvin]

People here are trying to get too much meaning from throwaway panels and simple mistakes made by Oku, he produces the manga to a very high standard so it's only natural that he'll make the odd mistake here and there in terms of both plotholes and inconsistancies in artwork.

It depends on the manga. In Gantz' case, the throwaway panels and simple mistakes often turn out to be something different. Like the positions the players are in when they come back to the room. That was thought to be a mistake for a long time.

We are presented with mysteries from day 1. The whole point is that they are all pretty much clueless, and as soon as they think that they have things figured out, Gantz throws them another curve. Oku's manga is a series of mysteries, secrets and puzzles.

The thing with manga is it if it's not explicitly mentioned or shown to us it hasn't happened, there's nothing that requires you to go over each page with a fine toothed comb and search for clues in the background.

But we enjoy looking for clues. We get great satisfaction out of being able to say "I was right! It really was a clue!"

Nishi became important again 100 issues after he died. Reika and Tae were cover girls before their first appearance in the manga. The covers have shown a foreshadow of future characters and items several times. Oku throws out clues that might not become important for years. The vampire training seminar mentions nanites, which haven't been an obvious part of the part at any time since, will probably become an important of the plot in a few years.

Things that people think are mistakes often turn out to be part of the plot. There have been several 6th sense type moments, when something unexpected happened, and people looked back and found literally dozens of clues hidden in those throw-away panels.

We saw a throw-away panel of Kei hitting three bottles at one time with his x-pistol, then he used it to lock onto three people at the same time. The swords lying on the floor when Kei found the bikes looked like just a throw-away panel at the time. So did the database of dead Gantz players. In Gantz, there have been literally hundreds of other supposedly throw-away panels, or panels with what is presumed at the time to be mistakes, which have turned not to be mistakes at all, and often become extremely important to the plot later.

Look at how many people there were who said that the positions the players came back to the room in being different from those that they were at in the end of the hunt were just drawing mistakes. Then Kei came back at the point of the "last save". Turns out, all of those "mistakes" were just the way that Gantz works. Oku makes some minor mistakes in his drawings, like HS's regrown tie, but most of the plot holes aren't really mistakes; they are just as likely to be mysteries to be solved than something that Oku just forgot.

This is a prediction thread; the very nature of predictions requires something in the past to base them on. I always try to base all of my predictions about what the characters will do in the future on their actions in the past, and I try to base my projections of future plot developments on the clues and circumstances in the past that Oku may have left for us to foreshadow the future.

Besides, I like fine-toothed combs.

[warbandit66]

Haha I like you're analysis of chapters but sometimes I feel that they dominate chapter threads maybe you should start a thread yourself.

[winterwyrm]

nah, george's epic ownings of people are an essential part of the gantz board

[Kozar927]

yes yes we all love George, but what about spoilers... were are they? shouldn't we have more already?!?!?!

[georgemarvin]

Looks like we might get the whole issue before any more spoilers pop up.
@warbandit66: Don't mean to dominate a discussion; I like to see ideas thrown around and everybody tosses out their own takes on what's happening. If I throw out a theory, I usually see several ideas pop up that I would have never thought of; some of them are pretty interesting.

[Kozar927]

Whens it released in jap. Thursday right? The will see the hole thing today. Or tomorrow for some of you.

[102jayday]

today is thursday 4.38 toyko time, aust is a hour ahead

[花男★]

Hands are the toughest part of the human or humanoids body to draw, also Oku is still learning and improving, remember the art of the first chapters, and how he used to draw the suit and Nishi's face? and when Kurono looked like a girl?