Naruto's "That Jutsu"

[Hemostrat]

Personally, I think its Shiki Fuujin. So at the end of the manga he can use it to seal the Kyuubi up again once and forever and he dies with it.

[xi0]

But do we have a definite answer to whether Jiraiya knows that sealing technique? It's probable because he is a sealing arts master. His sensei Sandaime, and his protege, Yondaime both knew the technique. I guess it's probable that Jiraiya knows the jutsu, but what could Naruto use as a vessel?

[sharinganLS]

Personally, I think its Shiki Fuujin. So at the end of the manga he can use it to seal the Kyuubi up again once and forever and he dies with it.

But do we have a definite answer to whether Jiraiya knows that sealing technique? It's probable because he is a sealing arts master. His sensei Sandaime, and his protege, Yondaime both knew the technique. I guess it's probable that Jiraiya knows the jutsu, but what could Naruto use as a vessel?

Jiraiya knew that Naruto was goin to face sasuke and the AK. Y would he tell Naruto not to use Shiki Fuujin a sealing technique? Y would Naruto learn or use that technique in the first place. It doesnt make any sense.

Shiki Fuujin is like a last resort jutsu. A last resort justu meaning it would be used only if the user knows theres no way he can win the battle. Now if naruto learned the Shiki Fuujin wouldnt he knwo not to use that jutsu unless he has no other options. Y would then Jiraiya tell him something so basic?

The jutsu that Jiraiya has told Naruto not to use couldnt be Shiki Fuujin.
1) Because (even if Jiraiya knew that jutsu) Jiraiya knows that Naruto is too reckless and that he will endup lossing his life if he teachess him that technique.

2) Becasue Jiraiya knows that Naruto will be facing the ak so he will most likely teach him a jutsu that will strengthen his skills and speed and make him control the kyubi's chakra(like the frog summoning training). Thats y naruto is able to take control of the three tales.

Isnt Jiraiya's three year training supposed to build up naruto's strenth so that he can face and survive the AK? Y would Jiraiya teach Naruto a technique that will sacrifice himself (end his life) inorder to kill his opponent?


My best guess as stated earlier is that "that justu" is a justu that will most likely depend on the Kyubi's chakra.

[poopoomaru]

Hmmm thats brings up an Interesting point. What if the jutsu that he taught him was A) very powerful B) but also requires some much either chakra/concentration that whenever Naruto tries to do it , he ends up going all Kyuubi.

We know that when he is trying to do something really hard his body (even involuntarily) access the Kyuubi's power , and with the weakened seal it starts pouring out at high rates quickly leading to even 4 tail Kyuubi mode , we have seen that in his wind rasengan training. So it seems logical that if he tried to do a jutsu that was just outside the reach of his ability , then he would go all kyuubi in attempt to pull it off.

[sharinganLS]

Hmmm thats brings up an Interesting point. What if the jutsu that he taught him was A) very powerful B) but also requires some much either chakra/concentration that whenever Naruto tries to do it , he ends up going all Kyuubi.

We know that when he is trying to do something really hard his body (even involuntarily) access the Kyuubi's power , and with the weakened seal it starts pouring out at high rates quickly leading to even 4 tail Kyuubi mode , we have seen that in his wind rasengan training. So it seems logical that if he tried to do a jutsu that was just outside the reach of his ability , then he would go all kyuubi in attempt to pull it off.

Thats exactly wat I have been saying.

"That jutsu" has to be some how connected to the Kyubi chakra (Naruto goin to the Kyuubi state/tails).

yeah I think "that justu" is related to the usage of Kyubi chakra.

And Jiraiya has told Naruto to try not to use it for one of these reasons:
1)He might go to 4 tails due to the huge amount of chakra required for the jutsu and thereby put his body in danger.
2)He might go to 4 tails due to the huge amount of chakra required for the jutsu and thereby put his friends in danger if they r nearby.

[poopoomaru]

Errrm My bad man? Didnt see that earlier post. But it would make alot of sense. If it wasnt a jutsu that took his life with it then it must be something like that.

[aznhotbod]

i also thought Naruto has no problem creating Rasengan with one hand. He uses both hands to create a Oodama Rasengan. I thought the reason he used 2 clones to train for the "Kazengan" is becasue its difficult to do both chakra AND elemental manipulation, thus he needs 3 in total, which makes sense.

Naruto: Rasengan
Naruto + KBunshin: oodama Rasengan
Naruto + 2 Kbunshin: Kazengan

[ShadowStrike]

It probably got nothing to do with Wind Rasengan because Jiraiya seemed not to have taught Naruto about it.

I think it was the frog stomach jutsu - the one Naruto will use to indigest Hidan into frog dump.

[lexx]

"That jutsu" is most likely nothing we've seen before, and has some sort of risk associated with its execution - else Jiraiya wouldn't have scolded Naruto not to use it.

[VEX02]

Its the sealing jutsu that the 4th taught the 3rd and Jiraiya

[ttxdragon]

ha, it's an selfcentered rasengan. he getssupersaiyajin aura-balls around him and just storms in.

for anybody who didn't notice, that above was fun.

what do we know:
01. jiraiya tells naruto not to use it.
assumptions: thus it is most likely a kinjutsu, which he didn't admit to naruto, because i don't see naruto favoring to learn kinjutsu if he knows about it.
jiraiya suggests not to use that jutsu because:
- it may hurt him
- it may hurt others around him
- it may hurt everybody in middle range
(-it may hurt the plot, because naruto would just own. but then why would he even mention it... )

how does it hurt?
best guess would if it is selfhurting is the kyuubi.
other things are totally grabbed out of the thin air.



myself i don't like the idea of it again being the kyuubi that hurts him and others. i would prefer to have something like a slightly selfburning chakra-armor, because narutos fightingstyle is full of holes. maybe it's an ultimative defense still allowing him to attack but that hurts him a great deal.
or maybe as somebody said above, jiraiya taught him how to open the eight gates. how many would be to question.

btw.
the old thread is here:
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=10438.0

[kyuubiseal]

I think that by that justu he means some kyuubi summoning justu, probably him turning 3 tails by communicating with the fox

[triniman121]

just a theory "that justu" allows the kyubi to be summoned out of naruto for a short ammount of time...

or lets naruto control all of the kyubi's chakra for a limited amount of time giving him unlimited power

[someguyudontknow]

yeah the 4th being Jiraiya's son is unlikely cause we have never seen a jonin level sensei teach or take his/her own child in his/her team. For example Asuma isn't Shikamaru's dad and the forth isnt Kakashi's dad. So having a son and father in the same team is unlikely to happen.

Also I think Naruto will use "That Jutsu" against Orochimaru. And I also think that "that jutsu" is some how connect to the Kyubi's chakra.Y? because the major changes that we have seen in Naruto since he left with Kiraiya is that he has better control over the Kyubi's chakra. He was able to get to three tails without loosing control of himself. So I think that Jiraiya has been teaching him to control the Kyubi's chakra and to use it when necessary(remember he spoke to Kakashi at the beginning of Naruto part II that he was able to fight with the three tails or something). Hence I think he has been trainning Naruto with the Kyubis chakra and I think that "that jutsu" possibly requires Kyubi chakra to be executed effectively.

wasn't Naruto always able to go 3 tails without "losing himself"? uhh I mean in the battle at the valley he didn't "lose himself" He was still conscious and aware of whats going on. It's not like he went berserk and destroyed everyone in sight.

[Ishiken]

When Naruto becomes too excited, enraged or starts to exceed his own personal limitations tails begin to manifest the more he does the more Kyuubi power leaks free of its own will from the failing seal. Essentially the seal used to seal Kyuubi uses Naruto's own incredible chakra to imprison Kyuubi and when it becomes unstable Kyuubi starts to come out and play. That jutsu what ever it is happens to be be in the realm of incredibly difficult to perform and master. When Naruto first successfully used it I'm guessing he went 4 tails for the first and last time that Ero-Sennin let him reach that point.
It might be the legendary technique of the 4th that gave him that nickname it might be some super jutsu that he was taught what ever it is Naruto will be more then capable of handling and we will see him use it against the Akatsuki soon.