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Thread: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

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    Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    In case you didn't know, Arakawa-sensei uses a lot of religious symbolism in her manga (one of the things that attracts me to it) and I just found something rather interesting.

    These are the actual fated punishments of those who commit the seven deadly sins in hell (the names of the homunculus are the sins) and some of them are rather interesting and coincidental.

    Pride - broken on the wheel
    Envy - put in freezing water
    Wrath - dismembered alive
    Sloth - thrown in snake pits
    Greed - put in cauldrons of boiling oil
    Gluttony - forced to eat rats, toads, and snakes
    Lust - smothered in fire and brimstone

    The evidence is pretty convincing. (except for gluttony, who I feel doesn't count since he's going to be remade exactly the same) the Homunculus have all met their ends as represented by their punishments in hell. Pretty cool, no?

    How do you think Arakawa will kill off the other homunculus? Who will kill them? Discuss away.

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    Um in chapter 66
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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    Where did you get from the punishments, Glasskatana?

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    Quote Originally Posted by chvis002
    Um in chapter 66
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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    The punishments are (supposedly) the punishments that are supposed to befall sinners who are guilty of these sins in hell. Just type in one of the punishments in google and you'll find a bunch of pages popping up for more info.

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    Punishiments as described in Bible?

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_sins

    ^ the catholic hell's punishments are listed with the entries, long live teh wiki <333[br]Posted on: December 19, 2006, 08:45:56 PM_________________________________________________
    Quote Originally Posted by Luckas
    Punishiments as described in Bible?
    yes

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    Sorry, but all my knownig of punishiments for capital sin came from Divina Commedia and I wasn't sure if they were also in Bible or from some tradition.

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Luckas
    Sorry, but all my knownig of punishiments for capital sin came from Divina Commedia and I wasn't sure if they were also in Bible or from some tradition.
    Dant'es Divine Comedy makes its own punishments that are based on what he felt would be perfect contrapasso. The bible has its own punishments that are different.

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    Quote Originally Posted by glasskatana
    Dant'es Divine Comedy makes its own punishments that are based on what he felt would be perfect contrapasso. The bible has its own punishments that are different.
    Ok, that make it perfectely clear, I know Dante's Divina Commedia, but I know very little about Bible. Thanks everyone.

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    I've heard this idea before with speculation especially around Pride's death which is much weirder than the others. As for the one where Gluttony ends up eating rodents perhaps it could be translated that he eats something which causes disruption with his inner gate. Sloth being thrown into snake pits could still work if he is more invincible than the others, they will just stop him somehow. That said, he has been underground for a long time. Meh, we'll see hey?

    My only wonder is Pride's death...but then again we havent seen him anyway so im sure it wont be explained for ages ~_~

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    Wrath death kinda reminds me the death of Sloth in the anime..
    In the anime, more Homunculus die, but they die not according to the bible punishments.. Seems like the manga is more Bibleish :P


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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    Alright, with the death of envy (god it's been a long time since I've posted in here) a new element has been added. Put in freezing water. Now, I realize this one seems like a bit more of a stretch, but the reason the gang were able to trap and eventually defeat envy was because it had snowed the night before according to chapter 79. To me, though not as obvious as the others, that's still consistent. Thoughts?

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    Quote Originally Posted by glasskatana View Post
    Alright, with the death of envy (god it's been a long time since I've posted in here) a new element has been added. Put in freezing water. Now, I realize this one seems like a bit more of a stretch, but the reason the gang were able to trap and eventually defeat envy was because it had snowed the night before according to chapter 79. To me, though not as obvious as the others, that's still consistent. Thoughts?
    oooooh. this thread is interesting. too bad i hadn't noticed it before. anyway, i am not entirely convinced envy's death follows this pattern, but maybe arakawa is simply trying to be less obvious about the symolism. maybe envy isn't "technically" dead, though. if that's the case, they may end up freezing the little guy in the upcoming chapter to finish him off. i don't really know.....

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    Re: Fated Punishment (how will the other Homunculus die?)

    more or less i guess it does follow the respective punishment. with the end nigh, i guess we shall see how the rest of them die... though i cant imagine sloth and gluttony's deaths... kinda weird how to do it without it being rele gruesome...

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