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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Dude, Naruto is a solid five now for his mastery of Frog Fu. So is Strength. Intelligence is a 5 too.

    He's STRONGER than Sasuke now and his stats should reflect that.

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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Raikage:
    Nin - 4
    Tai - 5
    Gen - 4
    Int - 4
    Str - 5
    Sta - 5
    Spe - 5
    Sea - 3.5
    Total - 35.5

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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by chitosiri View Post
    Naruto In Sage Mode:
    Nin 5 (Rasenshuriken wich is now 100x stronger and expandable because of sage mode). (Not to mention, it takes crazy chakra control to pull it off).(Come to speak of it, it takes crazy chakra contol to even enter Sage Mode)
    Tai 5 (frog katas)( The only reason Tsunade is 5 in Tai is b'cous of her strength., but Naruto has strength, and a defined form of fighting that allows you to do damage without direct contact).
    Gen 2 (no change, but with Ma and Pa = 5)
    Int 4 (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/433/13/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/433/14/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/433/15/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/433/16/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/433/17/
    and the strrategies vs Deva Pain)
    Str 5 ( http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/431/06/)
    Spe 5 (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/430/16/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/430/17-18/)
    Sta 5 (Duh)
    Sea 2.0 (because of the use of kuchiyose)--> "After this, they need only perform the hand seals"-http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Summoning_Technique
    Total 33.

    Naruto Base:
    Nin 5 ( his different variations of rasengan + better chakra control)
    Tai 4.5 ( frog katas without indirect contact, but still effective as shown in the altercation with the cloud nins).
    Gen 2 ( no change)
    Int 4 ( Shown by Naruto choosing the best form of defense against the cloud nins and in the Pain battle etc...).
    Str 4 ( http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/435/006/)
    Spe 4 ( http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/452/14/)
    Sta 5 (Duh)
    Sea 2.0 (Kuchiyose no jutsu)
    Total 30.5

    Sasuke :
    Nin 5 (Black flames)
    Tai 3.5(no change)
    Gen 4.5(Manyekuo must strengthen genjutsu)
    Int 3.5 (no change)
    Str 3.5 (no change)
    Spe 4.5 (no change)
    Sea 4 (nochange)
    Sta 3.5 (no change) (I should decrease it to 2.5 because of loss of curse seal, and the fact that manyekuo drains your chakra like crazy, but I won't)
    Total 32

    Thanks for reading my post!
    i agree with everything but naruto's genjutsu stat....
    i suggest u look these pages again...
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/444/04/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/444/05/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/444/06/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/444/07/

    how do u guys say no change after seeing that....???!!!
    konan's exclamation clearly says naruto is the first person to resist nagato's chakra this close....even j-man had trouble controling his chakra when he had a rod on his shoulder...genjutsu controls the flow of chakra of opponent...nagato's chakra rod does the same...naruto has shown to resist it in closest range possible...and he used qb chakra to overcome it...he just has to get angry to break genjutsu...with his recent development of intelligence...i'd be very surprised if he did not get the trick behind it...

    i think his current gen stat is at 4 atleast...actually genjutsu against him is useless i think...with pa and ma he has to be 5 in that stat...
    Last edited by ganjabuss; October 19, 2009 at 11:37 AM.
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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    I too believe that genjutsu would be useless against naruto now. Pein's chakra as we know is incredibly powerful, and yet naruto was able to counter it up close. I think naruto is much more powerful than we realize

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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Theres nothing that Says whatever Nagato was attemping to do was A GenJutsu. Nagato was attemping to control Naruto's chakra but Genjtsu is aliitle bit more detailed then that.

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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Condensed version:
    Hashirama: 37. Nin-5 Tai-4.5 Gen-4.5 Int-4.5 Str-4.5 Spd-4 Sta-5 Sea-5
    Madara: 37. Nin-5 Tai-4.5 Gen-5 Int-5 Str-4.5 Spd-5 Sta-4 Sea-4
    Minato: 36. Nin-5 Tai-4.5 Gen-4 Int-5 Str-3.5 Spd-5 Sta-4 Sea-5
    Nagato: 35.5. Nin-5 Tai-4.5 Gen-5 Int-5 Str-1.5 Spd-4.5 Sta-5 Sea-5
    Raikage: 34.5. Nin-4.5 Tai-5 Gen-3 Int-3.5 Str-5 Spd-5 Sta-5 Sea-3.5
    Killer Bee: 34.5. Nin-4.5 Tai-5 Gen-3 Int-3.5 Str-5 Spd-4.5 Sta-5 Sea-4
    Darui: 33.5. Nin-4.5 Tai-4.5 Gen-3.5 Int-4 Str-4.5 Spd-3.5 Sta-4 Sea-5
    Sasuke: 30.5. Nin-5 Tai-3.5 Gen-4 Int-3.5 Str-3.5 Spd-4.5 Sta-3.5 Sea-4
    Konan: 30. Nin-4.5 Tai-3.5 Gen-4 Int-3.5 Str-2.5 Spd-4 Sta-3.5 Sea-5
    Shikaku: 29.5. Nin-4 Tai-2.5 Gen-3.5 Int-5 Str-3 Spd-3.5 Sta-3.5 Sea-3.5
    Inoichi: 28. Nin-4 Tai-2.5 Gen-4.5 Int-4 Str-3.5 Spd-3.5 Sta-3 Sea-3
    Naruto: 27.5. Nin-4.5 Tai-4 Gen-2 Int-3.5 Str-3.5 Spd-3.5 Sta-5 Sea-1.5
    Chouza: 26.5. Nin-4 Tai-4.5 Gen-2 Int-3 Str-4.5 Spd-2.5 Sta-4 Sea-2
    Suigetsu: 22.5. Nin-4 Tai-3.5 Gen-1.5 Int-2 Str-4.5 Spd-3.5 Sta-2 Sea-1.5


    Full version:
    Madara
    Ninjutsu: 5 (obvious)
    Taijutsu: 4.5 (standard)
    Genjutsu: 5 (obvious)
    Intelligence: 5 (obvious)
    Strength: 4.5 (blocked Suigetsu's attack one-armed)
    Speed: 5 (Uchiha speed, Minato and Raikage can't catch him)
    Stamina: 4 (great chakra for an Uchiha)
    Seals: 4 (too much doujutsu)

    Overall: 37


    Hashirama
    Ninjutsu: 5 (obvious)
    Taijutsu: 4.5 (standard)
    Genjutsu: 4.5 (Bringer of Darkness was A-rank)
    Intelligence: 4.5 (definitely smart, but not a machiavellian genius)
    Strength: 4.5 (matched with Madara)
    Speed: 4 (good speed, not lightning fast)
    Stamina: 5 (seems obvious to me)
    Seals: 5 (because he's got skills bro)

    Overall: 37


    Raikage:
    NIN - 4.5
    TAI - 5
    GEN - 3
    INT - 3.5
    STR - 5
    SPD - 5 (very obvious)
    STA - 5
    SEAL - 3.5

    Overall: 34.5


    Killer Bee
    Ninjutsu: 4.5 (just a guess TBH)
    Taijutsu: 5 (obvious)
    Genjutsu: 3 (can release it, but no talent for it)
    Intelligence: 3.5 (somewhat clever despite his personality, but nothing special)
    Str: 5 (clapped Suigetsu's sword, resisted Juugo's punch until rockets were added)
    Spd: 4.5
    Sta: 5 (obvious)
    Seal: 4

    Overall: 34.5


    Darui:
    NIN - 4.5 (he's good, but it's hard to get a 5. Ask Yamato)
    TAI - 4.5
    GEN - 3.5
    INT - 4
    STR - 4.5 (same as Suigetsu)
    SPD - 3.5 (how fast can a guy named "slow" be?)
    STA - 4 (solid)
    SEAL - 5 (obvious)

    Overall: 33.5


    Minato
    NIN - 5 (obvious)
    TAI - 4.5 (might be higher)
    GEN - 4 (all-around genius)
    INT - 5 (obvious)
    STR - 3.5 (standard)
    SPD - 5 (very obvious)
    STA - 4 (solid, but not sage-high)
    SEAL - 5 (obvious)

    Overall - 36


    Naruto
    NIN - 4.5 (rasenshuriken, sage mode, improved chakra control, etc)
    TAI - 4 (frog katas is taijutsu, even if he can't use it in base)
    GEN - 2
    INT - 3.5 (getting wiser)
    STR - 3.5
    SPD - 3.5
    STA - 5 (obvious)
    SEAL - 1.5

    Overall - 27.5


    Sasuke
    No change. The databook came out after the Itachi fight, and Sasuke's only improvement is ninjutsu, which is already a 5.


    Nagato
    NIN - 5 (obvious)
    TAI - 4.5 (he has those skills, even if his body isn't there)
    GEN - 5 (because Oro and Sarutobi have 5s for being technique masters)
    INT - 5 (obvious)
    STR - 1.5 (Comes from his state)
    SPD - 4.5 (he was fast when young, I doubt he's actually slower despite his frailness)
    STA - 5 (godlike)
    SEAL - 5 (jutsu master)

    Overall - 35.5


    Konan
    NIN - 5 (maybe that was just a clone...?)
    TAI - 4 (you never know)
    GEN - 4
    INT - 3
    STR - 2.5
    SPD - 4
    STA - 3.5
    SEAL - 5 (to pad her stats mainly)

    Overall - 31 (honestly I just padded her stats to a reasonable level, she can't be that awful)


    Suigetsu
    NIN - 4 (for his specialty jutsu)
    TAI - 3.5 (he's alright)
    GEN - 1.5 (terrible)
    INT - 2 (idiot)
    STR - 4.5 (fairly strong)
    SPD - 3.5 (typical)
    STA - 2 (bad)
    SEAL - 1.5 (almost none)

    Overall - 22.5


    Shikaku
    NIN - 4
    TAI - 2.5
    GEN - 3.5
    INT - 5
    STR - 3
    SPD - 3.5
    STA - 3.5
    SEAL - 3.5

    Overall: 29.5


    Chouza
    NIN - 4
    TAI - 4.5
    GEN - 2
    INT - 3
    STR - 4.5
    SPD - 2.5
    STA - 4
    SEAL - 2

    Overall: 26.5


    Inoichi
    NIN - 4
    TAI - 2.5
    GEN - 4.5
    INT - 4
    STR - 3.5
    SPD - 3.5
    STA - 3
    SEAL - 3

    Overall: 28

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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Sasuke View Post
    Theres nothing that Says whatever Nagato was attemping to do was A GenJutsu. Nagato was attemping to control Naruto's chakra but Genjtsu is aliitle bit more detailed then that.
    Genjutsu works by having the user send chakra within the opponent and then control the opponent through their chakra.
    Nagato sent his own chakra into naruto and tried to control him.
    THE ARE EXACTLY THE SAME!!
    Actually, nagato's was stronger b/c he actually controls the body and mind while genjutsu just mesmerize the mind

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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Sasuke View Post
    Theres nothing that Says whatever Nagato was attemping to do was A GenJutsu. Nagato was attemping to control Naruto's chakra but Genjtsu is aliitle bit more detailed then that.
    You misunderstood the whole point. No one is saying that Nagato tried to use genjutsu on Naruto. He's saying that genjutsu works the same way as Nagato's chakra rods. Nagato chakra rods may even be more efficient. Genjutsu works by using your chakra to disturb someone elses. Nagato's chakra rod do the same thing, only they need to make contact with your body. In other words, they both use chakra to control you, whether that be your mind or your body. Naruto's ability to resist the chakra rods should apply to genjutsu, in theory. It's actually an impressive theory, so nice job 'ganjabuss'. That thought never even crossed my mind.

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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    well this is what I think for naruto and sage mode base on the original date book

    Naruto

    Nin- 4.5/5 (It was orginally 4 but he learned sage mode)
    Tai- 3.5/5 (sasukes taijutsu is the same level and sasuke is pretty good in taijutsu and he has sharingan)
    Gen- 2.5/5 (obvious)
    Int- 4/5 (the strategies he showed during the pain fight was genus he didn't think one move but two or three moves ahead of pain)
    pow- 3.5/5 (should be the same)
    speed- 4/5 (He was able to ketch sakura in mid air after she was kicked)
    stam- 5/5 (also obvious)
    seal- 1.5/5 (he only knows on seal technique summing)
    Total= 28.5

    Naruto (sage mode)

    Nin- 5/5 (Its only in sage mode can he use FRS to its fullest level and he can use the super resangan and the duel resangan)
    Tai- 4.5/5 (While out of sage mode naruto was able to match Pains Taijutsu but after he alway seemed to get be out matched)
    Gen- 2.5/5
    Int- 4/5
    pow- 5/5 (the only person I ever saw toss a summing was Jiraiya sage mode here. Tsunade stabbed Manda with Gamabunta sword but to toss a summing the size of Gamabunta)
    Speed- 5/5 or 4.5/5 (Like Sasuke, naruto is good at big burst of speed)
    Stam- 5/5
    Seal- 1.5/5
    Total= 32.5 or 33

    The reason why I wont do sasuke is because his stats haven't really Increased. Its proven that Sasuke has more chakra than Itachi so he can pull more Jutsu out the only thing that really goes up is genjutsu cause he has a MS genjutsu.

    While after the Pain VS naruto hes proven that his stats went up much more not just beacuse of sage mode.

    The Rikudo sage LMAo this will be fun

    Nin- 5/5 (he created ninjutsu and had the Rinnegan)
    Tai- 5/5 (If he had the 10 tails then we can assume he was super fast)
    Gen- 5/5 (The 10 tails had the sharingan so we can believe that Rikudo had the ability to use the mugen Tsukiyomi)
    Int- 5/5 (He first sealed the jubi, then created the buji, and gave his sons part of his power)
    pow - 5/5 ( possessing the jubi gave way to exteerm power it does to Naruto and Bee)
    speed- 5/5 (possessing the jubi gave way to exteerm speed)
    stam- 5/5 (To be able to seal the jubi is enough said then he has the whole power of jubi its self)
    seal- 5/5 (He ceated jutsu and gave a rise to the current sealing methods)
    Total= 40
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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    I have my doubts about how HM affects stats. Personally I think the effect on it over the stats is mostly marginal. HM is simply a technique naruto uses and it enhances his ninja techniques into sage techniques. This said, even though HM seems to provide even improved chakra control, I doubt it actually counts in a way in which his stats would increase. The stats reflect a ninja's skill and technique over a given area. The important part here is mostly technique. I simply doubt HM increases the technique per say. Even if HM did count within stats of a ninja, I have my doubts on whether it would be contextually correct to measure said stats with the normal ninja ones given due to naruto using sage techniques and chakra instead of ninja techniques and chakra.

    One thing I do think is that naruto will pretty much never catch up to sasuke in terms of stats. He might match him in terms of ninjutsu, taijutsu and even surpass him in terms of stamina and strength but in the end sasuke will have an advantage over naruto. fact is, sasuke is and always has been considerable more well rounded that naruto. In that sense, sasuke is profficient in every aspect of shinobi fighting while naruto simply isn't. Naruto sucks at genjutsu and seals to the point where even now his stats there don't even go to 2. Given that naruto is not bound to be even average in those aspects(which IMHO would be a good 3), even if he does match or evn surpass sasuke in some aspects, his stats in genjutsu and seals suck so bad that his total will always be a little below sasuke. I mean, we are talking about naruto losing around 5-6 points just from there.

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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    When you guys are calculating stats, do you guys put everything into perspective? I know Kishi doesn't very well, but we should also try to do better.

    For instance.

    1. Power.
    2. Effect on the User.
    3. Accuracy
    4. Hit rate/Success rate.

    Because if you are to calculate Naruto's ninjutsu, in regular mode, which in my opinion should be a standard 3. His sage mode should raise this to a 4 only. Why? Because his knowledge in ninjutsu is highly lacking and doesn't do well to the critique I listed above.

    For instance, Naruto's Sage Mode Stats should be:

    Ninjutsu- 4/5. I gave Naruto 4, because he's lacking in total knowledge in ninjutsu. And for Naruto to use the FRS, it has a downside, at least so far of using it only two times per state. And he was only successful with it 30-40% of the time. And not only that, it's dodge-able, so it's not the greatest attack, even though it massively powerful.

    My evaluation of FRS

    Power: The FRS does have amazing power. No one denies this.
    Effect on user: 4/5 Does not damage the user, but gets a -1 for making him vulnerable due to the fact it uses so much chakra.
    Accuracy: 3/5
    Hit Rate/Success Rate: 2/5
    Total: 3.5/5 - And that's for the FRS in my opinion. I like the technique, but it's not the greatest technique in the world.

    Now I have evaluated all of his other techniques, and I'm left with 4-4.1/5. I rounded it down.

    Taijustu- 4.5/5. Still has room for improvement, but his taijutsu is definitely up there. I gave it a 4.5.
    Genjutsu- 3.5/5. Gave it a 3/5 because he's not only in sage mode, which boosts his regular stats, but he has the ability to summon Ma and Pa for genjutsu, and I took that into account.
    Intelligence- 3.9/5 - He's intelligent in battle. But I think he needs more knowledge in ninjutsu period. I took this into account.
    Power- 5/5 My reasoning here is that no one has the amount of power and chakra at that level. And the boost he gets has so many advantages, that giving Naruto less than 5 in sage mode would be ridiculous.
    Speed- 4/5 Speed doesn't seem to be consistent in sage mode. I say 4, just to be safe. If Kishi wanted to show or depict Naruto having great speed, he would have, and his battle with Pain never really did show very well. With Sasuke, Kishi usually comments on his speed 2-3 times during a battle.
    Stamina- 5/5 - No need to comment. We all knew this from part I.
    Seal Knowledge- 1.5/5.We all know this as well.
    Last edited by zagorka; October 21, 2009 at 04:10 PM.

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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    I have my doubts about how HM affects stats. Personally I think the effect on it over the stats is mostly marginal. HM is simply a technique naruto uses and it enhances his ninja techniques into sage techniques. This said, even though HM seems to provide even improved chakra control, I doubt it actually counts in a way in which his stats would increase. The stats reflect a ninja's skill and technique over a given area. The important part here is mostly technique. I simply doubt HM increases the technique per say. Even if HM did count within stats of a ninja, I have my doubts on whether it would be contextually correct to measure said stats with the normal ninja ones given due to naruto using sage techniques and chakra instead of ninja techniques and chakra.

    One thing I do think is that naruto will pretty much never catch up to sasuke in terms of stats. He might match him in terms of ninjutsu, taijutsu and even surpass him in terms of stamina and strength but in the end sasuke will have an advantage over naruto. fact is, sasuke is and always has been considerable more well rounded that naruto. In that sense, sasuke is profficient in every aspect of shinobi fighting while naruto simply isn't. Naruto sucks at genjutsu and seals to the point where even now his stats there don't even go to 2. Given that naruto is not bound to be even average in those aspects(which IMHO would be a good 3), even if he does match or evn surpass sasuke in some aspects, his stats in genjutsu and seals suck so bad that his total will always be a little below sasuke. I mean, we are talking about naruto losing around 5-6 points just from there.
    I agree with you on Naruto and Sasuke will never be on the same level. But thats what sage mode is there for since narutos seal and gen will always drag him down. Sage mode increases his strength, and chakra control in those areas. But sage mode does increase his over all stats some what dramatically.

    I see that naruto will have supernatural power such as chakra and super strength while sasuke will have his eyes increased just like Mandra VS the the 1st and the sages sons

    PS: I like how sage mode actives the body making it stronger while Narutos body is getting stronger Sasukes eyes will be getting stronger
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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by niblack89 View Post
    I agree with you on Naruto and Sasuke will never be on the same level. But thats what sage mode is there for since narutos seal and gen will always drag him down. Sage mode increases his strength, and chakra control in those areas. But sage mode does increase his over all stats some what dramatically.

    I see that naruto will have supernatural power such as chakra and super strength while sasuke will have his eyes increased just like Mandra VS the the 1st and the sages sons

    PS: I like how sage mode actives the body making it stronger while Narutos body is getting stronger Sasukes eyes will be getting stronger
    I didn't say naruto will not be as strong(or stronger) as sasuke, I simply said he won't get higher stats than sasuke anytime soon and probably never. Naruto could very well be as strong as sasuke even if he lacks skill in genjutsu and seals. All naruto has to do is not get into a seal or genjutsu contest with sasuke..... I do think sasuke will always be considerably more well balanced than naruto though(which does not mean he is stronger BTW lol).
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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    I didn't say naruto will not be as strong(or stronger) as sasuke, I simply said he won't get higher stats than sasuke anytime soon and probably never. Naruto could very well be as strong as sasuke even if he lacks skill in genjutsu and seals. All naruto has to do is not get into a seal or genjutsu contest with sasuke..... I do think sasuke will always be considerably more well balanced than naruto though(which does not mean he is stronger BTW lol).
    I disagree. Naruto's ability to use genjutsu is irrelevant to his stats. You don't need to be a genjutsu user to have a higher than average genjutsu stat, Sakura is proof of that. Sakura doesn't use genjutsu but she has a ridiculously high genjutsu stat. That has to mean that it's high because she isn't very vulnerable to genjutsu, which we have seen in Part I, most likely because of her incredible chakra control. Shikamaru also has one of the higher genjutsu stats, which was also shown in Part I when he pretended to had fallen asleep. We know that Naruto's chakra control has increased dramatically, one could even say that his chakra control has become higher than Jariaya's since not even Jariaya could balance his physical and spiritual chakra with the natural chakra properly like Naruto can. In theory, the better chakra control you have, the higher your genjutsu stats should be. It may not be at Sasuke's level but it has definitely gone up.

    As far as his seal stats, it's not time for that to go up yet. Naruto still has to learn to control the kyuubi, and that's when his seal stats will start to increase. He will have to know about the Eight Trigrams Sealing Style or Four Symbols Seal to complete that training. Who knows? "That jutsu" could just be mastering the Shiki Fuujin, it's hard to imagine that we won't see it again. And we know that we will eventually see the Hiraishin no Jutsu, that's seal orientated as well. His seal stats are almost guaranteed to go up.

    In other words, I think that Naruto will definitely be more well-balanced in the future. Sasuke hasn't trained since he was with Orochimaru. You have to at least admit the Naruto has the potential to raise any of his stats. If you acknowledge that, what would make you think that wouldn't? Because he's always been behind and Sasuke has always been well-rounded? Sasuke hasn't earned his power like Naruto has, which is why Naruto improves at faster rate. Actually, it would probably be easier to compare Orochimaru and Jariaya to Sasuke and Naruto. Jariaya ended up with higher stats despite Orochimaru being more well-rounded when they were younger. Sasuke only has one more upgrade, and that's the EMS. Naruto has at least two, not including being able to maintain his sage mode for a longer period of time. I'd put my money on Naruto's surpassing Sasuke all around, at least when he meets Madara.
    Last edited by Yondaime Uzumaki; October 22, 2009 at 01:28 AM.

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    Re: Databook IV Stat Predictions

    Naruto has the potential to rise his stats that is true but IMHO the most he will be getting at either genjutsu or seals is a good 3(while sasuke easily has the talent to get higher than average in every stat he has). In any case, that is just my opinion on that.

    I also disagree on the thing about sasuke not earning his power but whatever(it's not like sasuke is the one with a random dude inside of him providing him with absurd amount of chakra lol).

    Also, oro and jiraiya have the same amount of stats. The idea that oro had a 35 instead of a 35.5 like jiraiya was a mistake.....

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