Databook IV Stat Predictions

[RandomShikafan]

Danzou
Nin: 4.5
Tai: 3.5
Gen: 5
Int: 5
Str: 3
Spd: 3
Stm: 3
Seal: 5
Total: 32

This is most likely what stats he'll be getting, people around here have been giving him higher marks in Speed but that's his chakra at work. The Third Hokage had a 3 and he's was bouncing around with Oro, the First and the Second. Danzou is like 70 now.

Tsuchikage
Nin: 5
Tai: 4.5
Gen: 4.5
Int: 4.5
Str: 2.5
Spd: 4 (He can float, screw his backpains and old limbs)
Stm: 2.5
Seal: 5
Total: 32.5

I'll make an educuated guess for this guy as well. He's obviously got years of experience, but as far as I'm concerned Gaara already beat him in intellect, he's obviously not going to be the taijutsu fighter, and Genjutsu just doesn't strike me as his style.

Mizukage
Nin: 5
Tai: 4
Gen: 4
Int: 4.5
Str: 3.5
Spd: 4.5
Stm: 3
Seal: 5
Total: 33.5

She'll most highly likely going to be of the major damage dealing good guys in the war, with two kekkai genkais and a young body she's only got one set back: She's a Naruto female, thus won't be beating anyone truly important.

Gaara of the Sand
Nin: 5
Tai: 3
Gen: 3.5
Int: 4.5
Str: 3
Spd: 3.5
Stm: 5
Seal: 4
Total: 31.5

In all honesty, I think I'm being optimistic about how much improvement Kishi will give Gaara.

[Prince Sasuke]

Danzou
Nin: 4.5
Tai: 3.5
Gen: 5
Int: 5
Str: 3
Spd: 3
Stm: 3
Seal: 5
Total: 32

This is most likely what stats he'll be getting, people around here have been giving him higher marks in Speed but that's his chakra at work. The Third Hokage had a 3 and he's was bouncing around with Oro, the First and the Second. Danzou is like 70 now.

Tsuchikage
Nin: 5
Tai: 4.5
Gen: 4.5
Int: 4.5
Str: 2.5
Spd: 4 (He can float, screw his backpains and old limbs)
Stm: 2.5
Seal: 5
Total: 32.5

I'll make an educuated guess for this guy as well. He's obviously got years of experience, but as far as I'm concerned Gaara already beat him in intellect, he's obviously not going to be the taijutsu fighter, and Genjutsu just doesn't strike me as his style.

Mizukage
Nin: 5
Tai: 4
Gen: 4
Int: 4.5
Str: 3.5
Spd: 4.5
Stm: 3
Seal: 5
Total: 33.5

She'll most highly likely going to be of the major damage dealing good guys in the war, with two kekkai genkais and a young body she's only got one set back: She's a Naruto female, thus won't be beating anyone truly important.

Gaara of the Sand
Nin: 5
Tai: 3
Gen: 3.5
Int: 4.5
Str: 3
Spd: 3.5
Stm: 5
Seal: 4
Total: 31.5

In all honesty, I think I'm being optimistic about how much improvement Kishi will give Gaara.

Best stats i have seen so far. I would make a few changes on them,but they are all Kages so who knows.
I would move Tsuchi's Tai to 3.5,and gen to a 4. Mizu's speed to a 4. Gaara's seal to 3.5

[RandomShikafan]

Gaara's Seal is already at 4. Has been since the 2nd databook...

[kkck]

What do you all think about konan? She was trained by jiraiya and had a crazy ninjutsu(big flaw though). She also attacked the villages alongside pein and survived in a fight against good knows how many ninja. What extremely surprising is that she fought 3 people of shino's clan and somehow had no injuries whatsoever. She was also somehow able to handle thousands and thousands of bugs... I guess her stats would go like this:

Nin 4.5
Tai 3.5
Gen 3.5
Int 4.5
Strength 2.5(having a paper based jutsu does not imply high level of strength IMHO lol)
speed 4.5
sta 3.5
sea 4.5

total: 31

Seems rather low IMHO but on the other hand I would not know where to add points. I would have thought at least a 32.5 would fit a proper jiraiya pupil. With those stats she would still be on par with any known elite shinobi though(gai, asuma, kurenai, zabuza....).

[da_ni]

Tsuchikage
Nin: 5
Tai: 4.5
Gen: 4.5
Int: 4.5
Str: 2.5
Spd: 4 (He can float, screw his backpains and old limbs)
Stm: 2.5
Seal: 5
Total: 32.5

I'll make an educuated guess for this guy as well. He's obviously got years of experience, but as far as I'm concerned Gaara already beat him in intellect, he's obviously not going to be the taijutsu fighter, and Genjutsu just doesn't strike me as his style.

and yet you rated his taijutsu as good as itachi's, kakashi's, neji's, asuma's,zabuza's, jiraya's, and his genjutsu higher than kakashi's, sasuke in the 3rd databook, and as good as kabuto, who put a hole stadium to sleep..
right....................

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What do you all think about konan? She was trained by jiraiya and had a crazy ninjutsu(big flaw though). She also attacked the villages alongside pein and survived in a fight against good knows how many ninja. What extremely surprising is that she fought 3 people of shino's clan and somehow had no injuries whatsoever. She was also somehow able to handle thousands and thousands of bugs... I guess her stats would go like this:

Nin 4.5
Tai 3.5
Gen 3.5
Int 4.5
Strength 2.5(having a paper based jutsu does not imply high level of strength IMHO lol)
speed 4.5
sta 3.5
sea 4.5

total: 31

Seems rather low IMHO but on the other hand I would not know where to add points. I would have thought at least a 32.5 would fit a proper jiraiya pupil. With those stats she would still be on par with any known elite shinobi though(gai, asuma, kurenai, zabuza....).

i have her lower!! and a total score of 32 is very good, at the level of ninjas like asuma or kakuzu, who was a monster! and gai has a total of 32, and strong kunoiche like shizune and kurenai have 29, so here how i'ld rate konan:

nin-4.5
tai-2.5
gen-3
i.q.-4.5
power-3
speed-3.5
stam-3
seal-4.5
wich gives a total of 28,5..and alreaddy a good number..

[kkck]

I know that is the level of ninja like gai or asuma but I see no reason for which konan would not be at such level. I mean trained by jiraiya, took out countless konoha shinobi(including 3 aburames and actually survived the invasion without a scratch. 28.5 is a good number but it is not at the level of a truly elite shinobi which IMHO konan is.

There is also a chance that just a bushin was with pein during the invation which simply adds up to her skill....

[vintagemistakes]

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[Franckie]

and yet you rated his taijutsu as good as itachi's, kakashi's, neji's, asuma's,zabuza's, jiraya's, and his genjutsu higher than kakashi's, sasuke in the 3rd databook, and as good as kabuto, who put a hole stadium to sleep.

Databook stats are not meant for literal point-by-point comparisons. A whole bunch of characters can have the same ratings for a particular stat, yet have a gap in ability. For example, Naruto and Jiraiya have a rating of 5 for Stamina/Chakra. Does that mean Jiraiya and Naruto have an equal amount of chakra? or consider how Itachi and Kabuto both have a rating of 5 for Genjutsu. Does that mean Kabuto is Itachi's equal in that particular field? Obviously no for both circumstances.

The only time when comparing stats with each other makes sense is when you're comparing a person's overall stats with each other between character groups. For example, comparing Akatsuki to Akatsuki:

Itachi - 35.5
Orochimaru - 35
Sasori - 34.5
Kakuzu - 32.5
Kisame - 32.5
Deidara - 32
Hidan - 31.5

A lot of hierarchy ratings I've seen in the past have something similar to this, and it's very similar to how I would rate them.

[RandomShikafan]

Indeed, I sometimes worry that Kishi first decides on the characters total, and only after that does he fill out the individual, it would explain Sasuke.

But the stats you brought up put question in my mind. Right now Kisame's stats are
Nin: 4.5
Tai: 4.5
Gen: 2.5
Int: 3.5
Str: 5
Spd: 4
Stm: 5
Seal: 3.5
Total: 32.5

Currently in the manga he's fight Killerbee and his teacher and there's a real chance that he'll win. Do we think he's going get an upgrade in stats in the next databook (if he lives) or are the stats that Killerbee is being given (I put him at 35 a while back) just way overzealous?

[Franckie]

Currently in the manga he's fight Killerbee and his teacher and there's a real chance that he'll win. Do we think he's going get an upgrade in stats in the next databook (if he lives) or are the stats that Killerbee is being given (I put him at 35 a while back) just way overzealous?

It's important to note that the gap in ability between various characters is small to the point of being insignificant (e.g. Sasori and Orochimaru). That's also not taking into consideration everyones' unique set of abilities. Take Hidan as an example. Even though he is the weakest Akatsuki to date, he actually has a decent chance at killing Kisame, Orochimaru, and Itachi, provided that they lack prior knowledge on him. Especially Oro.

It's possible Kisame will obtain an upgrade (it's not like Kishi cares for consistancy). As for Bee, you're not being overzealous in suggesting his total stats to be 35, but I'd hold off to see how the fight concludes. For example, Bee could be the "stronger" fighter for all we know, but it won't do him any good if Kisame has the advantage in mitigating circumstances (info, preptime, etc.).

[Samui]

Mizukage
Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 3.5
Genjutsu: 3.5
Intelligence: 4
Physical Strength: 3
Speed: 4
Stamina: 3.5
Seals: 4
Total: 30.5

[SuperSaiyaMan]

Mizukage
Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 3.5
Genjutsu: 3.5
Intelligence: 4
Physical Strength: 3
Speed: 4
Stamina: 3.5
Seals: 4
Total: 30.5

THat's a bit too low considering what we've seen from her, Samui. Taijutsu, given she's from Kiri, should be a 4, physical strength and stamina a four too.

The earlier 33.5 stats up above seem more accurate.

[kkck]

Mizukage
Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 3.5
Genjutsu: 3.5
Intelligence: 4
Physical Strength: 3
Speed: 4
Stamina: 3.5
Seals: 4
Total: 30.5

That is a tad low IMHO. kage should have quite a few more points given what we have seen.

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 4(could be 4.5 though, she seems quite... limber)
Genjutsu: 3.5
Intelligence: 4
Physical Strength: 3.5
Speed: 4.5
Stamina: 4.5
Seals: 4.5

total:33.5(maybe 34)

[RandomShikafan]

THat's a bit too low considering what we've seen from her, Samui. Taijutsu, given she's from Kiri, should be a 4, physical strength and stamina a four too.

The earlier 33.5 stats up above seem more accurate.

She should have a 4 given the fact that she's from Kiri? Based on what do you follow that line of thought?

[da_ni]

Databook stats are not meant for literal point-by-point comparisons. A whole bunch of characters can have the same ratings for a particular stat, yet have a gap in ability. For example, Naruto and Jiraiya have a rating of 5 for Stamina/Chakra. Does that mean Jiraiya and Naruto have an equal amount of chakra? or consider how Itachi and Kabuto both have a rating of 5 for Genjutsu. Does that mean Kabuto is Itachi's equal in that particular field? Obviously no for both circumstances.

The only time when comparing stats with each other makes sense is when you're comparing a person's overall stats with each other between character groups. For example, comparing Akatsuki to Akatsuki:

Itachi - 35.5
Orochimaru - 35
Sasori - 34.5
Kakuzu - 32.5
Kisame - 32.5
Deidara - 32
Hidan - 31.5

A lot of hierarchy ratings I've seen in the past have something similar to this, and it's very similar to how I would rate them.

i gree (and i think it's obvious) that among the same value, some characters are stronger than others, but for instances, high ranked ninjas like asuma, kurenai, hizashi, yamato, kakuzu, have only 4 in taijutsu.
among them some are stornger in that abilitty than others, but none of them is better than the ones sitting at 4,5.
and there may be cases where the stats where made to achieve a certain value, but i think that it aplies to all, kabuto has a total value higher than gai's, and i don't think that kabuto is stronger than gai..