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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
Okay I know this will probably never happen, but pitting the strongest espada against Aizen the master of all things. I know Aizen is incredibly strong but I feel like Stark is one of the only characters that isn't really afraid of Aizen. If indeed Stark is a vasto lorde, will he be able to take on Aizen? What if they fought? Who would win??
Aizen has got to be stronger since he ranked him. I think if Stark challenged him it'd be over fairly quick too.
Aizen has enough reiatsu to force grimmjow to his knees without any visible effort, advance kido (which apparently arrancar dont know except for a few specific abilities which are similar to it) and mastery of shunpo and hand to hand combat. Not to mention his shikai is the biggest hax in the series. I have no doubt stark is absurdly powerfull (how could I lol?), but the little things aizen has done so far lead me to believe he is stronger than any of his espada.
Aizen, for all the reasons kkck listed. I doubt Aizen would have someone in the espada that is more powerful than him. Stark should be incredibly strong, but I don't see his power surmounting the behemoth that is Aizen.
i feel that stark is probably stronger than Aizen. Unfortunately for Stark, Aizen probably put some sort of control mechanism in the Hyogoku(spelling) So that when he transformed them into the Espada they are today it gave him a controlling power over them.
Aizen might have to show his Bankai in this match but at the end of the day it should be an easy win. He's shown some amazing moves that Stark has yet to even compare too. Of course he hasn't done much, just saying.
But Stark did effectively allow Aizen to mark him...
Having said that their isn't even near enough to really do this match. We can probably use a fair amount of powerscaling but thats about it. Namely the fact that Stark has done jack squat.
Last edited by Onomatopoeia; February 25, 2009 at 11:56 PM.
Stark hasn't done anything yet..Aizen is shown to be uber powerful. But yea, it should be close.. there is a huge gap in power between 4 & 5...imagine how high up is 1
As mentioned in the posts above, it might be close but however I don't think Aizen would willingly make someone stronger than himself. In addition, his knowledge of abilities, weakness etc. as well as his own powers give me the impression that he outmatches Stark.
How can you guys argue over Aizen and Stark strenght...
We haven't even see a glimpse of Stark's power yet.
There are no evidence at all to use to compare them.
The only thing that can be said is that Stark is obeying Aizen's orders, so Aizen is probably stronger then Stark.
This is such a stupid battle.
The only thing we know is that EVERY arrancar fears aizen's reiatsu.
Aizen wins. Stark kills him and Aizen is like, "I tricked you, you just killed your mom. STAB"
Stark could probably kill anyone weren't he so lazy. God it's cool being powerful and lazy. Ukitake and Shunsui will probably have to team up to fight against Stark later on. I still think the two together can't beat him. Aizen, on the other hand, has a broken Shikai and probably an even stronger Bankai.
Well a VL is considered to be as strong if not stronger than some captains. So a arrancar VL should be much much stronger. If Starks is indeed a VL, I could see him giving aizen trouble even if aizen has hollow powers. But I bet aizen made precautions when he got the espadas. Most likely he performed his shikai on them in case they turn
We don't know that. In real life almost all the medieval kings were weaker than their knights. The knights spent life since age 7 training to be able to run around in heavy steel suits and hack at enemy necks, whereas the kings did what, learn Latin?Quote:
Same with today, the top brass of the military don't do any real fighting, it's the underlings that go out in the front lines and deal with roadside bombs and the like.
I know these comparisons aren't accurate, of course Aizen is really powerful and Bleach isn't the Middle Ages. Aizen actually even trained himself to his limit, so I don't doubt his strength.
I'm just saying, you can't just assume that just because someone is ranked higher, that they're stronger. That's just manga logic.
EDIT: Oh wait, this is a manga.
Haven't voted yet, don't have a real opinion. I'm going to wait and see if someone's opinion is strong enough to convince me.
Like you said yourself, Aizen is extremely powerful, not to mention a genius. He was able to commit so many heinous deeds right under the eyes of Soul Society. He was able to defeat Hitsugaya, Ichigo, Komamura, Renji etc. without any trouble and all of them have bankai and are captain (or near captain level). Also, someone like Gin Ichimaru would not follow a weakling. And since he created Stark and without a doubt knows how powerful he is, I don't think he would be idiotic enough
not consider a fail-safe in case Stark defects. But I doubt that is needed. Aizen is probably strong enough to defeat Stark in a fair one-on-one battle. Seriously, we have not even glimpsed Aizen's true powers yet
This would be a good fight but Aizen wins. It would take a good amount of Stark's power to deal with Aizen's combined shikai, kidou attacks and sword-fighting. If Stark pushes him to the edge where Aizen must use his bankai, I don't think he or any of us () will be ready for that.