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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    Seems to be down ATM, I'll make sure to keep checking

    Edit: I found it, didnt see the torrent link ^^
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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    The chapter is AMAZING!
    New characters introduced, new revelations about Motoko!
    And of course some panties in one good fight!

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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    I'm in agreement, the chick with the key's is sexy as hell too ^^, and you can't go wrong with a well placed pantie shot ^^, I'm in stitches waiting for the next chapter, its a travesty this is such an under looked manga

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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    Indeed, quite an interesting new development.

    That new girl is interesting. She might be from the same clan as Motoko's grandmother. Also, that new nurse is also interesting. Thought she resembled Motoko.

    Love how Hino landed her kick on that new girl's face. Absolutely wonderful. Anyway, it seems that the new girl is very strong herself. Hino's counter maneuvers are exceptional as usual. I wonder if that new girl will be able to find a way to break through Hino's defense?

    Loved how Guardian-san is astonished beyond words. Wonder if Zero will be revealed next chapter in a fight with the new girl.


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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    just read the new chapter, awesome...the new characters introduced are quite interesting, especially the school nurse ! *fufufufufu*:P

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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    New girl seems very capable to be keeping up with Hino so far, and adult women ROCK.

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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    Lol....good than, we somehow need to get more people circulating around here, but as long as the big 3 are around, good manga's like this one, just get swept under the rug.

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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    this chapter was so freakin awesome, hino is so HOT i just love her. The girl with the keys was most likely sent by motoko's granny and LOL @ the club trying to make a sequel to the movie and motoko sighing from relief that the school banned the outfit she wore from the first one lol

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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    It was a great chapter. I do find it plausible that Motoko might be the host personality. Right now, I'm wondering how big the true Motoko's breast will be when all personalities combine?

    Now serious, Motoko might actually be the key to recombining all personalities. She seems to be the neutral personality that has the best chance of mediating with Zero and the rest of the personalities if things get dangerous on the inside.

    Heck, there might even be the real Motoko locked somewhere away.

    Hino is always hot.


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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    the thing that i don't like about the whole recombining all the personalities is that won't Hibiki, Fujiko and mikiri cease to exist if it happens? or do you think that it's going to be 1 entity with all personalities as one having all memories that each personality had when they were seperate? i'm with kousukegawa on that they should remain as they are and would find my self sad if they do in fact disappear but i wouldn't mind it if its the former and the product would be 1 entity with all personalities as one. btw i find it doubtful that motoko is just another personality since shouldn't she be the original because wasn't HI FU MI created through the training that she went through with all 3 dads and later zero emerged? so wasn't she motoko before she even met the 3 "dads" and before the traumatic event that happened with her mother that led to her death? what's your opinion on this matter

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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    Quote Originally Posted by neovenom View Post
    the thing that i don't like about the whole recombining all the personalities is that won't Hibiki, Fujiko and mikiri cease to exist if it happens? or do you think that it's going to be 1 entity with all personalities as one having all memories that each personality had when they were seperate? i'm with kousukegawa on that they should remain as they are and would find my self sad if they do in fact disappear but i wouldn't mind it if its the former and the product would be 1 entity with all personalities as one. btw i find it doubtful that motoko is just another personality since shouldn't she be the original because wasn't HI FU MI created through the training that she went through with all 3 dads and later zero emerged? so wasn't she motoko before she even met the 3 "dads" and before the traumatic event that happened with her mother that led to her death? what's your opinion on this matter

    Well, imo motoko could be the host, cause she could have been "created" right after her mother died, to supress that memory.... therefore the creation of motoko had nothing to do with the HI FU MI... even if she never met her "dads" she would have 2 personalities

    Its possible, but i dont like that theory... i would prefer if she was the original and something else was responsable for the creation of Zero
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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    HiFuMi risk being erased but there should be traits of them left over. I mean, if Motoko successfully recombine, all the girls should become just one girl. They are one in the same. It's just that it seems like each one represent a certain emotion in my opinion. When Motoko is riled up, she might behave more like Hibiki, when she is playful, she might be like Mikiri, and when she is calm, she'll be like Fujiko and etc I think. I'm sure we'll still she traits of HiFuMi after the recombination. I suppose, when Motoko is pissed, she'll be like Zero.

    Thing is, the real personality could be locked away deep inside and had never come out. The split might have originally been Motoko and Zero. Zero might have created another Motoko and spawned HiFuMi. So in this case, it could be Motoko Prime (locked herself away and has never shown herself), Zero (there but comes out when HiFuMi is angry or out cold), HiFuMi and Motoko Host. So there could possibly be up to six different personalities.

    But as of now, there are Zero, HiFuMi and Motoko.
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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    Ohh new fans of the series, be welcome here!

    Anyway, about the Motoko being the host, even if it's a possibility, this should be taken under consideration, because we don't know what Motoko Mom have passed before she dies, so the theory of segua, about another "Motoko" locked down within her soul might be a reality.
    If we think about it, she witnessed her mother murderer and therefore got so chocked that her angry turned out to be Zero, and the real her split another personality to take her life normally, we can assume that real Motoko is in a coma, trying to "heal" her mind from that shock when she was a little girl!

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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    First time arround here. Hullo to all.

    The little I now about DID comes from a magazine article about the story of Robert Oxnam and his autobiography, "a fractured mind". Never read the book btw (shame on me), but at that time, about 3-4 years ago, I did some research by myself about DID and find out that:

    1 - Without correct therapy the number of personalities only grow with the passing years and its comon to have more than 10 (!), those being triggered after other kind of dire situations, not necessarily traumas or abuses, occurs;
    2 - Specialists agree that DID is caused by abuse at an early age and often only one of the personalities (usualy the youngest one, called "core") knows about the abuse;
    3 - With correct therapy the number of personalities decrease but rarely to the point of extinguishing all of them;
    4 - The so called "host" is considered the person "self", the "real" one;
    5 - The host doesn't know when other personalities take over and keep no memories of those events;
    6 - After the "host" interacts withe the "core" he begins to witness when the other personalities take over, interacts with them and retain all memories.

    As you can see, the author did a pretty good job on research and treat Motoko's DID with some clinical background so we can asume he might use some of the information above on the manga. Heck, I might even have made some spoilers.
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    Re: Change 123 by Iku Sakaguchi & Shiuri Iwasawa

    The author did a good job imo. From reading some of the author's notes in the beginning, he really educated himself more about DID. I'm sure that in these next coming chapters, we'll find out more and more about the incident.

    From what you're saying, it seems that HiFuMi might just stick around then.Talk about having four girls or five to yourself!


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