Compilation of facts about R!Syaoran and Watanuki's parents

[raincloud]

About the katakana/ hiragana, just randomly, that was what cemented it for me that the tube pair aren't the clones. Csakura's name is always in katakana.

I don't know about rsakura, though. But I was really annoyed by the fact that the translation had eliminated an actually quite huge clue as to who the tube pair were.

Gah I wish I knew more Japanese!

Actually...it's kind of confusing. When R!Syaoran calls R!Sakura, R!Sakura's name appears in Hiragana. But when other people refer to R!Sakura as Sakura-hime and when R!Sakura introduced herself to Syaoran, Sakura is written in katakana...

[ShirubiaLamperouge]

That's really weird... Wait I need to go check something.

Hahah. In the raw of volume 1 C!Sakura's name is written in hiragana. I've only seen a very small amount of the raws, and I'm pretty sure I've never seen C!Syaoran or C!Sakura say "Sakura". I think that when Fai says it it's in katakana, I assume because it's not a name in his native language or something. And someone else as well... But yeah. It's not really cemented.

Maybe R!Sakura being in katakana is because it's not her real name or something...?

[raincloud]

Ok... Here's the page where Yuuko talks about the wand.

http://www.onemanga.com/xxxHolic/3/05/

Hm... I know this isn't meant to be for speculation, but on the next page Yuuko says something interesting...

"But... I will definitely meet them soon. Even though it isn't... It was around the same time." She's talking about "the cute girl and her boyfriend".

Argh gtg.

I finally got a hold of xxxholic volume 1 raw and I just wanted to point out that the translation can be misleading. The original is this:

まだ会ったことないのよねー
その可愛い女の子とその子のお相手に

Which doesn't exactly scream "boyfriend" to me. In this context it would probably be better to phrase it as her "singificant other." :P

[DontWakeMeUp]

Question:
Okay, so there is only one star staff, as mentioned by Yuuko, right? And that would belong to CCS!Sakura since... well, a whole manga was made about it. =| Anyway, she said that the CCS pair were living in her world, which brings me to how I was confused:
Watanuki is in the Holic/CCS world, too, but was he always in her world? I mean, if the clones are his parents, then would'nt they have been in the Holic/CCS world as well? If that's so, then wouldn't there be TWO pairs of Sakuras and Syaorans in the same world? That wouldn't be right, right? :/ Yes, he was brought to the same world as his parents after R!Syaoran made the wish, but did they all always live there?

Did I miss something important? Something's telling me that I am. I haven't read either manga in their entirety since last summer. D: This has been bothering me to no end lately. Someone help before I feel like any more of an idiot? >.<

[Lady Sakura-chan]

Thayt would be very weird. If the clones are the parents then the timeline would be more messed up that I thought. Then R.Syaoran would have fighted his own dad...

[Silversakura]

Alright, DWMU, this is what I have got for you.

There is only one star staff, if you don't count the fake toy that was in Yuuko's shop that Wata-chan noticed.

My belief is this:

The MU!Sakura that appeared in the dream is indeed that slightly older age one living in Yuuko's time with her Syaoran from CCS, which is why Yuuko said that girl and her BOYFRIEND.

Most would assume CLAMP would marry the characters before having children.

Therefore, MU!Sakura saw her other self, the CLONE Sakura, having problems in her dreams, because remember CCS is a dreamseer and can see the future, so she decides to give up her staff to the Clone.

Frah, that doesn't explain it better does it, because it still doesn't explain why the CLONE would have CCS magic circle, unless, like I earlier has said, the MU!Sakura is a younger version of CLONE Sakura.

I apologize. I do not think that helped.

[DontWakeMeUp]

No, not really... xD Thanks for trying though. I know what you're trying to say, but that's because that's what I was thinking too.

It's safe to assume that the CCS pair are in the Holic world, since as Yuuko said so herself. And the translation said that they were only boyfriend/girlfriend, but the actual japanese word is open for interpretation; so they could be any age after the CCS manga...

Gah, I don't really know where I'm going with this. =|

I guess what I was initially trying to figure out was that, if the CCS SxS are live in that world, then the clones couldn't either, right? It'd be weird if two Sakuras and two Syaorans with magic like that did. o.O

But if the clones lived in another world (assuming they're the parents), and just sent Watanuki to Yuuko's world, how did they send themselves in the tube to her world as well?

But then there's also how Touya and Fujitaka/Yukito were the ones who entrusted it to Yuuko, but it seemed like a more physical giving... Then that would bring us back to what world the two pairs of Sakuras and Syaorans are/were living in.

I keep going back and forth. Sorry if I'm confusing! >.>

[ShirubiaLamperouge]

Maybe the staff was like somehow supposed to represent CCS!Sakura's magic...? Though surely CLAMP wouldn't have been so vague.
Maybe CCS! and C! Sakura had met before, which would explain CCS!Sakura reassuring C!Sakura about the cards.

And yea, we still need more information about this! It'd be weird to have two pairs of S&S in the same world...

[Silversakura]

Yeah, there is no way they would put two of them in the same world. That would be a total mess.

Do you think, that in giving the supposed Clone Sakura her staff, MU!Sakura was giving her magic too?!

[DontWakeMeUp]

That's what I thought, but if that were the case, then what about the cards? Like, yeah, they are still there, like MU!Sakura reassured, but without magic, they can't do anything. They said in the manga and anime that the cards would just lose power if they weren't used... :/

[Silversakura]

I think, maybe MU!Sakura reached the point where she no longer needed her star staff to use her cards. I mean, you don't see Clow swinging around his massive thing. I wouldn't be surprised if at that point it just became more of a magic amplifyer.

[DontWakeMeUp]

I think someone (Yuuko?) said that she didn't need her staff to control the cards. But then she wouldn't have actually given away her magic when she handed her wand over. Unless she only gave away some of it...? >.>

[Silversakura]

Well, how about this then.

When Clow 'died' Sakura was the most powerful magician in THAT world. If Clow could make the cards have SO much power, and Sakura eventually became more powerful then him, I wouldn't be surprised if she could put magic into the staff for Clone Sakura.

[DontWakeMeUp]

Ah, so like how Clow put magic into the cards so that Sakura could use it until her own power of the stars awakened and she was able to use her own?
So, in other words, we're assuming some sort of reserved power seperate from her own was in the staff. Makes sense. :P

[Silversakura]

So therefore we are assuming as much. Not our craziest theory.

So MU!Sakura gives Clone Sakura the staff, it has magic power. She eventually learns how to use that power, hence explaining the appearance of the STAR CIRCLE!

Hoshit. It actually makes sense for once!!!