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Thread: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

    Niou is the most formidable doubles players. He has yet to lose a doubles match but lost one singles match. Chitose and Tachibana are forgotten bros. I do agree that Gin shouldn't have been selected. At least Kenya, Yanagi, and Momo weren't chosen (reasons are in the "Do the MSs really deserve to be 1st stringers" thread). Yushi would have been a better candidate but he's forgotten too. Basically all of Hyotei is except Atobe.

    Yukimura or Shiraishi could make a good vice-captain. I'd like to see Yukimura/Sanada/Akutsu answer to Atobe as their captain. I wonder how'll he'll tame Kintaro. I think the others know him well enough to respect him. I'm sure Niou, Gin, and Kirihara do. I mean they did cheer him on for the court 5 vs court 3 match. And most of them were touched by his determination to defeat Ochi/Mori on his own.

    With the Yukimura leaving, I think someone just jumped to that conclusion and others followed suit. I've noticed that pattern. When one person says/has a particular thought, others follow the same thought. Maybe after the World Cup XD

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandnewkid View Post
    Atobe is a better captain than those two. Yukimura pretty much let Sanada be a Rikkai's captain even when he was in good health. Yes, they're all loyal to Yukimura, but Sanada's definitely a better captain than Yukimura. And Atobe was one of the head honchos of the revolution. And he's charismatic. Plus he's the hidden main character. Toyama would never make a good captain. He's better reserved as a Singles 1 player. And honestly, how is this not one of the strongest MS line up combinations possible? Atobe, Yukimura, Sanada, Shiraishi, Fuji, Akutsu, Kintaro alone are pretty much more than half of the strongest MS players in Japan. Then you have Nioh and Gin? Screw Oishi, Kirihara, Marui, and Kite, all the geniuses are already lined up. It's pretty much an all-star team that consists of what could possibly seven candidates for a future G10 with one possible (Nioh). C'mon.

    It's a strong team. I'm not saying it's not. It's one of MS stronger line up. There is only 1 strongest line up, and this is not the strongest MS line up. I can make a better one, and I'm not a coach of any sport team. Actually, to heck with that, I can make 2-3 better line-up, even. And once there's at least 5 better option the coach that make it just fail at their job. If they are going to ignore past position and just throw together a team, I expect pretty full well that it WILL be the strongest team the coach can make.

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    Here's some of the change that can be make. Change Gin to be either Chitose, Tachibana, and Momoshiro. And bam, stronger line up right there. And that's just a joke and easy change. I think there's a lot better team they can make more this.

    Maybe I'll be wrong and Gin is actually the bad*** that can 6-0 those 3 players. Who knows.
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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

    Gin made Duke go all-out, that's something those other three probably wouldn't have been able to do. Are they overall stronger players? Maybe so, but Gin has that niche utility of having a crazy amount of power that those three don't have. I imagine that's why he was chosen over them.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

    As Kaoz said, power players are a thing in PoT/SPoT. The only thing is that you have to level up to play at the HS level as a power player. Duke isn't only a power player, he has good overall stats, he can just hit you out of the park with Duke Homerun.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

    I honestly really like the team and find it pretty balanced... I'll never get why Oishi was chosen tho (besides him winning against a top 20 pair thanks to his partner), that's my only rant about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardy View Post
    I honestly really like the team and find it pretty balanced... I'll never get why Oishi was chosen tho (besides him winning against a top 20 pair thanks to his partner), that's my only rant about it.
    I think he (as well as Kite and Kirihara) were just chosen because their partners were already part of the team. Atobe's probably supposed to play singles, so Niou won't play with him. Also, if I recall correctly the fanbook describes Oishi as a top tier doubles player - he's just not very flashy, so we don't get to see it a lot I guess. Kurobe's memo also notes that Oishi has a lot of potential to improve as long as he starts focusing more on himself.

    But yeah, I agree that this is a good team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
    Gin made Duke go all-out, that's something those other three probably wouldn't have been able to do. Are they overall stronger players? Maybe so, but Gin has that niche utility of having a crazy amount of power that those three don't have. I imagine that's why he was chosen over them.
    Better move him up to at least same tier as them then.

    And those 3 have a lot of things that Gin don't have. I don't get the point.

    I already stated it, this is a good team. But my question is "is it the best team?"

    Yes? Great, I'll like to debate it's not.

    No? The coacb in U-17 sucks crap.
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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

    ...why? He was called because he's the best power player, not because he's better than WoK.

    That's like asking Oishi to be Sanada's tier because he's called for being good at doubles

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

    Kawamura beat him and Gin haven't improve ever since then. Lucky shot? Maybe so. Once there's 2 lucky shot in 2 matches, that means something.

    And I think BJK seems to be scaring people more than 108th, maybe that's just me. It seems like a power move.

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    And I don't get why best power player should get a position over others. Is there opponent only power player can beat? That should put them in high tier right there. If not, there are better players and thus better choice.

    Take Duke, he got the second highest base stats as well as a strong move. He's in G10 because his skill is G10 level. Not because there have to be power player on the team. Even Date is #12. They're in because they are actually strong and amongst the top of G10 and 1st stringer respectively.. And so Gin seem to be because... He's a power player?
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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

    Kubo loves the idea of the power player. You just have to accept it, Ken.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostyMouse View Post
    Kubo loves the idea of the power player. You just have to accept it, Ken.
    You mean Konomi? I know he love the idea of power player. But so what? I'm talking from the story perspective.

    My point is easy. Take my line-up and have them face the line-up the coach make. Obviously a lot of draws since a lot of it is the same characters. But is my line-up stronger? Good team and strongest team are different. These are coaches, they are professional, this is their jobs. And I don't think they do their jobs.

    If Gin is actually amongst the top tier, I wouldn't bat an eye. But.. let's just face the truth, Konomi just want to put him on the team. Even if he's, from the manga we've seen so far, isn't as good as those other players I mention. It's just a case of poor story writing.
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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Spoiler Thread (Next Ch. August 4th)

    Quote Originally Posted by Philia View Post
    But that team doesn't consist Best MS doubles pair. Neither Tachibana, Yanagi, Chitose. Instead it contains Kirihara, Gin, Marui. You can surely replace Marui with Kikumaru & Kirihara, Gin with WoK.
    Kikumaru? Please, there's Nioh.
    WoK? Please, there's Nioh.

    Nioh + Any doubles specialist = Just as good combination. Kikumaru has no spot here. The WoK were only hyped in PoT. It's pretty clear that they aren't as good at the HS level.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ken- View Post
    Here's some of the change that can be make. Change Gin to be either Chitose, Tachibana, and Momoshiro. And bam, stronger line up right there. And that's just a joke and easy change. I think there's a lot better team they can make more this.

    Maybe I'll be wrong and Gin is actually the bad*** that can 6-0 those 3 players. Who knows.
    Chitose? Why? Yeah, he has Saiki, he's definitely a good player, and I'd swap him for Kirihara or Kite, but not Gin. Gin is a valuable piece as a power player. Power players are almost automatic wins if you can't take what they dish out. Tachibana? He's not as good as he was made out to be. Momoshiro? No, pls, no.

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