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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

    Quote Originally Posted by ying_su View Post
    Now i have this question:We only have seen Zhu one time, as an old old man. What kind of character is him? Of course he must be (or had been) very intellingent. But, how much responsibilities there were in the past in his hands? How much he knows or how much can he keep in secret to the order? <---That's something to take into account if Kanda is related someway with the heart. That it can actually be a secret even for the order!!
    Humm... his full name is Zhu Mei Chan. Does it mean he is Bak Chan's relative, doesn't it? If he is one of Chan's clan, he may have worked on the second exorcists too! And he would be not only Mugen creator but also, in someway, Kanda's!
    If this were true, he may be aware of a lot of secrets regarding Kanda...

    Uff... waiting is really annoying... I wanna read the next chapter so bad!

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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

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    Uff... waiting is really annoying... I wanna read the next chapter so bad!
    It's not just annoying, it's a desaster!!!!! We are still on the first week and desperated!
    ò_ó T.T

    Yeah! Knowing more about Zhu will know more about Kanda!!! And thanks to him there're a lot of interesting theories that can be done! XD


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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

    the order (Komui, Back, .....) are feeling so sorry and guilty about Kanda's condition and they don't even know anything about the flower what so ever. so then my guess is that the experiments on Kanda resulted in two kinds of disasters/side effects/whatever it is) for Kanda, one is known by the order/central, and this one is related to the tattoo, and the second one is about the flowers and only Zuu and Kanda know about it, which I agree with the above posts that it should have a deep meaning for Zuu to keep it a secret since he seems to know about Mugen and Kanda more than anyone else.

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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

    I didn't quit about, that Mukuro and Kanda's skills are someway similar so i was doing some research, and i found more anime where the 'six realms of rebirth' is adapted, of course in very different ways.
    -Saint Seiya: Virgo Shaka (i don't read this manga just write what i found)
    He use this ability to sends his opponent to one of the six realms.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgo_S..._and_abilities
    Katekyō Hitman Reborn!-Rokudo Mukuro
    He's six paths, are 6 different fighting skills, like summoning deadly animals(realm of animals) or create illusions(realm of hell) and so on.
    http://reborn.wikia.com/wiki/Mukuro_Rokudo#Abilities
    Naruto: Pein
    The Six Paths of Pain: It allowshim to control six separate bodies, whith six different ability, everione represents one of the realm's.
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/419/01/
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Six_Paths_of_Pain

    These are very different but adapted from the same myth, so could be that the mugen is something like this, not just becourse of the number 6.He's first illusion, the hell's insects, could be the realm of hell?, wich is the lowest place. And we have seen just 3 of the illusions so could be some more intresting skills there

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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

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    These are very different but adapted from the same myth,...
    How many ilussions we've already seen in the whole manga?
    (I tried to find it on wikipedia but...-btw, wikipedia can be really spoileric!!!!-)
    And wich ilussions they were?


    Ahem~ ^^
    http://dgrayman.wikia.com/wiki/Yu_Kanda
    Last edited by ying_su; April 28, 2009 at 12:47 PM. Reason: Found it! XD


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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

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    Kaichū: Ichigen (界蟲「一幻」, lit. First Illusion: Hell's Insects): which releases a small swarm of supernatural creatures to devour his opponents.
    Nigentou (二幻刀, lit. Two Illusion Blades): covers his sword and scabbard in a coat of energy while creating an energy blade, making two impossibly sharp weapons.
    Hakka Tourou (八花蟷螂, lit. Eight Flowers Praying Mantis): Using the Ningentou, Kanda makes a movement that quickly slash the enemy eight times. The slashes, together, resemble a flower;
    Shouka (昇華, lit. Sublimate): Activating the power of his tattoo, his pupil changes into three dots. After this, he can activate the Kinki Sangenshiki. Veins also rise around his eyes.
    Kinki Sangenshiki (禁忌 「三幻式」, lit. Taboo Three Illusions): drastically increases his speed and strength at the cost of some of his life.
    sourse: http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=1019
    there are 5 but named illusion is just 3.

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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

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    there are 5 but named illusion is just 3.
    So we should consider only 3 of the 6 ilussions have been shown, isnt it?


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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

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    So we should consider only 3 of the 6 ilussions have been shown, isnt it?
    Yeah.
    I just can't express that good what i want to say, sometimes :P

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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

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    Yeah.
    I just can't express that good what i want to say, sometimes :P
    Well, i prefer this, in the link i shared they say there were only one more ilussion to show, and i'm not agree with that!
    I feel like the most ilussions Kanda can show the more he will live...


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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

    Well ive looked over the fanbook information again. As you can see Road as well as Kanda are Gemini. Now that doesnt say they are related. hes also born on 6th june it says. Same day as DDay, also same day YMCA is founded and the Lebanon war began on that day. so i dont think the 6th june has any meaning.

    But as far as the zodiac goes. Roads zodiac pretty much fits the negative side of the zodiac.

    -egocentric
    -restless
    -inpatient
    -egoistic
    -incensitive
    -non-emotional
    -ever changing

    and thats just a few of the traits characterized with a Gemini

    Now the positive traits for Kanda

    -adaptable
    -charming
    -entertaining
    -optimistic
    - funny
    -positive
    -dynamic

    As far as i can see Road fits the negatives but kanda is the oposite of the positives. I think this is a clue maybe that what happend so long ago affected his natural being.

    Perhaps this too explains the weirdness of the Akuma/humans. That they have somehow changed who they are.

    To put another example in for the zodiacs

    Lenalee is Pisces

    traits for pisces

    -well tempered
    -gentile
    -kind
    -sensative
    -imaginative
    -spiritual
    -selfless
    -naive

    well a lot seems to work for this one too

    Lavi is a Leo

    -creative
    -dramatic
    -passionate
    -loves attention
    -noble
    -magnetic
    -protective
    -generous
    -loyal
    -bossy
    -dogmatic *not that much i think*
    -interuptive

    thats rather fitting.

    Anyways everyone got to find out themselves how a character is i just think Hoshino made good use of a handy tool to base a character on. Thats why some Zodiacs are secret like Allen,Tyki Mikk, Mana and the Earl.
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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

    This zodiac thing is interesting and at Lenalee and Lavi is ok, but in Road's and Kanda's situation , it's not exactly the reverse? I mean Kanda fits more with the negative and Road with the positive characteristics

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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

    I find interesting an author describes his characters looking at the zodiac^^
    I dont know too much about it, but, according to Allen personality does anyone knows what's Allen's Zodiac (or what could it be)??

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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

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    I find interesting an author describes his characters looking at the zodiac^^
    I dont know too much about it, but, according to Allen personality does anyone knows what's Allen's Zodiac (or what could it be)??
    I don't know Allen's zodiac but it's a good start point, that Kanda is gemini and that is compatible with libra and aquarius(i think somehow they like each other, no no, not in the yaoish way...unfortunately :P). Libra couldn't be, i know that becourse i'm libra too and allan has a too kind personality for a libra . So he has to be aquarius.....now this is a very scientific theory ))))

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    [OFF TOPIC]Look what a friend showed me.[OFF TOPIC OFF]
    LOL this is so cute, thank you for sharing this.
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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

    Allens would fit best with Libra

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    Re: Trying to solve Kanda's puzzle...

    Ok, i looked for it on the net:

    Libra:
    Spoiler show


    Aquarius:
    Spoiler show


    He definitely is not Aquarious, but fits the goods better thant the bads!! ^^
    PS: If Allen is Libra, could it be the 14th Aquarius? Perverse and unpredictable
    *evilish*


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