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Thread: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    yeah, but he is a second year. So what is he going to do during his third year?
    ...I mean he could go ahead and graduate, but knowing him he'd rather play one more year.

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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    Assuming he wins the MVP, he may just finish his last year of school and go straight into the NFL. Still, Inagaki left the option open for him to always come back and play his third year (He didn't make him a 3rd year in the beginning so I guess that would leave him with some flexibility in the end). It'd be nice if the relationship with Mamori and father helped tie in with his decision.

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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    I thought Hiruma was unable to play for a third year due to the Deimon High School rules?
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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rsatori View Post
    I thought Hiruma was unable to play for a third year due to the Deimon High School rules?
    That was my point. Maybe he would transfer to another school to play during his third year, and maybe even end up facing Deimon.

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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    Well with the one chapter where Musashi talks to Hiruma about the future of Deimon I doubt he'd do that.
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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    He also has is book of threats. He could do whatever he wants pretty much is what I'm getting at. If Inagaki absolutely didn't want him to continue playing he would of just made them third years but Hiruma can still potentially play.
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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    Inagaki is one of the better writers of manga. It's really strange to see Eyeshield become this, especially when this arc had so much potential. There is a lot of focus on Gaou and Shin. The German/Japan and USA/India matches were supposed to be long awesome matches that had all kinds of fanservice; watching everyone who has a starting role make some big plays, EVERYBODY contributing to the advancement of the team. You barely get anything out of this incredible Pentagram.

    It's rushed and is missing so much of its potential. This could've been the best arc in the whole series, but it's not.

    However, going back to my first statement, it's really odd that Inagaki is stinking it up right now. I honestly believe this arc really just took a backseat due to the need to end the series asap. After the Teikkou arc, didn't Eyeshield automatically drop in ratings? It reached its needed climax in the uniting of the original 3 devilbats, and eyeshield being with them to reach the Christmas Bowl, and WIN. The rest is falling action and conclusion. So ending the series soon probably is the strong reason for shitting this storyline up. I guess he's just pulling together the more important points, because I think he has plans for Gaou and Agon to get involved with Sena somehow before the series wraps up.

    Also, I guess what us fans can really hope for is that this manga arc gets all of its original potential fulfilled when the sequel series finally arrives and Inagaki really gets to dabble into loads more detail. That is, HOPEFULLY is a sequel series that wraps up the manga comes.
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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    you guys could actually write questionairres...i'm pretty sure they would count. Even more if they were written in english.
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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    Eyeshield21 was a really great manga, but I was quite disappointed by the fact that they didnt show the full game against germany as well as the other games at the world cup.

    Plus the "Pentragam" was all talk except for clifford and Don who really played an awesome part, panther only had 2-3 touchdown panels, bud is kinda all-talk, tatanka, greatest linebacker? yeah right, Agon and shin are much much better.

    with the half time remaining it would be great if Inagaki comes up with amazing plays to end the game with US.

    Im also kinda disappointed with some players like. (yamato, akaba, and Marco) They were my favorite characters yet they seem to fail on this game. yamato's Caesar's charge wasnt shown, akaba wasnt playing, and marco was just a benchwarmer or some sort.

    Overall Im disappointed

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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    The main thing that has put me off this arc (since I haven't read the scanlations) is that it doesn't feel right at all for this series to end (if it indeed does end after this arc; after all, I thought it'd end after the Christmas Bowl) on a cast of mixed characters. I always felt it should end focused solely on the Devil Bats. Just my opinion, but there you go.

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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    Here's the thing I see... It could have been done right. We love these characters and if we were introduced to more American characters to know their struggle in some way, rather than being blindsided by talk of the best of the best, it could have gone even better. But it's as if the mangaka didn't really have this story planned out and the natural conclusion was the X-mas Bowl. Further, Panther was a minor character that really (IMO) hasn't been explained. We need to see his training with Apollo to understand him, along with the Pentagon, in more than the games on the field. It's more or less, they're the penultimate and we didn't see them work for it. So how do we know they're the best?

    Inagaki or whomever dropped the ball. Now all I wish is that somehow all of the Devilbats reunited for one play on the field against this team.

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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    I was looking forward to Inagaki blindsiding us with a secret member of the Pentagram. Like a government agent-themed character who comes out of nowhere and takes the game back from Japan. A guy who blends in like a bench-warmer like Ishimaru but really has the calculating ability of Hiruma and the athletic abilities of Agon. Would have been awesome to see a character like that maybe on the Militaria side at least. D:
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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    It's such a damn waste of a cool story and characters. As said before, it has all gone downhill since the Hakushuu game (wich was just awesome!).

    Even the cover art has seen better days. Im so damn tired of seeing Sena in a new pose, with maybe some new enemy in the background. Everything before the Tokyo Tournament was super cool, and mostly of the stuff up to the Hakushuu arc was great as well (Even though we never got that great Gao cover). So many cool characters and events to use, and make great covers from, and STILL we get Sena. Again.

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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    Out of misery? I don't know, I still have a lot of fun reading new chapters. Guess I'm alone with that ^^;;

    Don't hump my rage ;A;

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    Re: Putting ES21 out of its misery.

    It's not so much as we haven't had fun with the latest chapters. But when they're compared to the buildups, the tension, the great stories of the first few arcs of ES21, they literally don't compare. Almost as if Inagaki's brain was taken over by space aliens, and they only had basic knowledge of the depth he's capable of. I put more blame on the editors than Inagaki himself. It just seemed he put so much into making Gaou, unstoppable with Kurita coming up to take him down. A tall receiver with self esteem issues in Sakuraba versus a short but determined monkey in Monta. The brass and crude Agon versus the humble and nervous Sena. These were great matchups that we could see evolve before our eyes.

    Now, it's just... Blargh, no buildups, just execution. Throws me off.

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