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Anyway... I'm sure the following chapters will be great.
Then again, it's just a term and I doubt anyone will stop using it when they only see Nisio through a 19 page window every week and even then claim he is a bad writer without even seeing the conclusion he is going for, so pardon me for pointing out something that bothers me.
Last edited by Tsuji; March 30, 2012 at 12:30 AM.
This was kinda epic, Ajimu's disorder (did anyone google if that really exists in a less extreme way?) and the kiss wrapped this arc up in a typical Nisio like way (which is good). In the end even with all the abnormalities it's still reality for the characters in that world
Cant wait for the anime AND the new arc.
Last edited by Raijatsu; March 30, 2012 at 12:32 AM.
Last edited by Atobe the king; March 30, 2012 at 03:29 AM.
and WTF they really kissed, wonder how they will behave from now on Glad to see the story isn't ending yet, more Medaka, more Kumagawa, more Anshin'in. What more do you want?
In wikipedia there was an update that the anime will not be done in a format of 13 episodes this spring and another 13 in the fall but a straight minimum of 45 episodes, has something like that appeared in any other news?
I haven't heard that it's been changed though, but I'll ask around anyway.
Apparently it comes from these listings which now say 45 episodes. However, it's really weird if this were the case, seeing as it's a late night anime. There's no ruling out the chance that they're wrong, as supposedly they've been wrong before.
Last edited by [Cross]; March 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM.
Wow...even better news...thanks for the heads up guys.
The past couple of chapters I really dreaded reading, I was pretty much expecting Zenkichi to be rejected (or rather, left open-ended). I'm also glad there's a new arc.
@Tsuji -- Osananajimi FTW, that's all I can say. They were the only viable option. If Medaka didn't reciprocate then she'd simply be single throughout the rest of the manga.
I hope the news is false or there is something else to it. Maybe 26+26 like Bakuman? Gainax already made bad decisions about Medaka, but going 45 episodes nonstop could be even worse... They usually run out of budget pretty quickly --not to mention, as Cross pointed out, it's a late night anime. They already lost half of Medaka's arrogant grandeur when the design switched to straight lines from Akatsuki's dynamic lines and made three and a half bad seiyuu choices..... if they go all the way to Kumagawa and Anshin'in in one go, I'm worried about the bad decisions continuing.
@Teeba~ Osananajimi FTW!! Exactly... C= 2 year old Zenkichi was smart. He made it so Medaka wouldn't accept anyone's confession until he himself was ready to confess. (He bid his time while learning how to disassemble bazookas and befriend big eaters.)
I'm not sure if anyone is interested, but here is a picture of the Medaka Box cast. (I wonder if anyone can find the 3.5 mistakes below)
I do vaguely recall someone on narutoforums calling Medaka a "slut" and other things. Probably the only thing we have in common is our dislike of Medaka and making a scathing comment, the key difference I focus on Nisio's storytelling. Other than that we probably have nothing else in common.
I wouldn't call Nisio a troll with what he did this chapter. I would call him a quack instead. Besides seeing a "conversion" that was brought about with deus ex machina, convoluted, and written to ensure Medaka's flimsy revelence to the plot, there are other traits that make this chapter an epic failure. This chapter is actually the coup de grace to problems that have been ongoing for quite a while now with Nisio's handling of his storytelling. I'd need to write an essay on the subject, however. So I won't dive any more into the subject.Quote:
I found the romance angle amusing, and very strange and befitting of Medaka. In a way, she had to be helped like she had helped others (Zenkichi fixed his mistake). Her grateful feelings are not unlike the people who she helped.
In general, this chapter is a way of reversing the feelings following the bitter defeat of Medaka last chapter.
I think Nisio knows that his writing and set-up from the get-go was flawed. That's why he has utilized it to be a giant pun, and yes this chapter is a giant pun. I think it lost that in translation.Quote:
Honestly, I can't even laugh this off with Katte ni Kaizo. Such distasteful joke...
I could, at the very least, respect your opinion as a person who reads Medaka Box if a) you didn't comment on the whole chapter based on 2 spoiler images before actual raws came out (which is why I said you were similar to the person who saw Medaka kiss Zenkichi and called her a slut) and b) you didn't call yourself a writer. (I remember a time only people like T.C. Boyle could rip a new one to accomplished writers -- not some nobody who claims to be a writer and uses vague terms he picked up from tvtropes to bash a series without giving solid proof.)
And yet, I can't be certain -- maybe you really are a good wri---- I can't even finish that. You dislike the main cast but like the crazy abilities? We are talking about Nisio Isin here... If you said "I don't like this certain decision (--I wanted to see the interaction between Kanbaru and Karen you set me up for 6 friggin' chapters. T_T)" it'd be understandable, but saying outright that you dislike the main cast is rejecting Nisio as a whole and even after that calling him a lousy writer later is inconsistent with you liking underlying plot mechanics. Nisio's unique characters and the interaction between them are the best parts of his writing --though the plot and writing style, the flawless narration are also other best part... (It's the best as a whole, really...) If only you could actually say "this this and this was a bad decision... This led to this and that led to that..." in a more detailed manner and actually using the real terms and characters from the series instead of stuff like "Deus Ex Machina". Medaka Box is a satire on Jump, God Mode Sues and God Mode Anti-Sues... Expecting it to please you while still thinking a term like "Deus Ex Machina" is fitting to use while talking about it makes you unqualified to comment to begin with. If only others shared your opinion of 0/5 so deeply, I would just say "Oh, there is something wrong... I'm just too blinded by my love of Soushiki and Saito to see the flaws in Medaka."
This all makes me think you have a narrow view on the Medaka fans instead. Not just on the fans, but even the series itself. I understand people like [Cross] who said "he can't end this with so many plot lines unresolved", but I can't understand someone who rejects Nisio to this extent and continues reading. I'd say read JoJo instead, but I'm sure the great writer would find flaws with it as well~ Please enlighten us with your misguided, over-embellished views on JoJo as well if you get the chance. ^^
Oh and about the quack thing... There was a time when salesman who made and sold "medicine" would claim to be a doctor to get people to believe the medicine was the real deal. They were quacks. Someone calling himself a writer (with only writing under his nickname that comes up online some crap called the last day of school [can you please show me where you write, oh great writer. I wish to read a few sentences of it and then bash it for no apparent reason and despite no one agreeing with my opinion.]) so his over the top, baseless, subjective critic can be accepted is much more of a quack in my --somewhat narrow, mind you-- view.
@earhtforge: I don't think Nisio changed anything or saw a flaw. It was meant to be this way from the beginning. Otherwise there wouldn't be this much consistency. You'd be hearing some "captains" going "no no... we said before that U, U and S were the oldest, but that person who just inexplicably died in B mode and was knocked out by a punch from a newbie SS way before was in fact the strongest who refused the position of captain many times." So much consistency and forethought~ =w= Now, there is a quack AND a troll... But this is about Medaka, so, I'm sorry for offending the fans of a certain off-color strawberry.
And finally, I will most likely be ignoring the great writer's words from now on for my own sanity --especially if they contain troll or quack-like lines-- so I apologize to everyone I may have offended unwillingly while trying to respond a tro---great writer.
@Frankie, i lol'd. Anyway...i cant believe at this point people aren't realizing this is on purpose....he's making fun of the popular manga that get away with these things on virtue of their popularity. All the meta jokes and jump references were supposed to make this obvious but somehow its flying over peoples heads, that was such a blatant deus ex machina i thought it was obvious. Medaka is OP, unstoppable (this is acknowledged in universe ffs) and has asspull abilities w/e she needs them...much like the other popular shounen heroes, Kumagawa should be unbeatable but lost because he acknowledged that he cant beat the MC? You really think he's not using satire to make fun of whats wrong with the shounen genre? And to drive the point home...he has the dark hero explain why he'd much rather read jump square than jump. It makes a lot of sense to me because i stopped reading those mangas for the points he seems to be making fun of
Medaka saved the whole manga again, even though she lost the elections, even though she lost all those people's hate, support or whatever which made her medaka
Last edited by Koen; March 31, 2012 at 06:20 PM.