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    Shishido

    Ive just realised that he never lost a match since coming back to the regulars (during Kantou Tournament)

    V Inui and Kaidoh, Won (could've lost)
    V some pair during national against Shishigaku
    V Oishi and Kikumaru, (also would've lost had it gone on longer)

    Not too bad eh?

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    Re: Shishido

    Good doubles record, his singles record would be lacking imo

    He's one of the few characters who played more than a single match who hasn't lost, all i can think of is Koshimae, Shiraishi and the others only played one match so we can't count them
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    Re: Shishido

    Quote Originally Posted by Atobe the king View Post
    Good doubles record, his singles record would be lacking imo

    He's one of the few characters who played more than a single match who hasn't lost, all i can think of is Koshimae, Shiraishi and the others only played one match so we can't count them
    Well, there's obviously Ootori, too. Also, Akazawa and Kaneda won their match against Hyoutei in Doubles 1, so they're both undefeated in multiple matches (Akazawa also beat a Seigaku regular in the previous year).

    I can't think of any others off the top of my head, though.

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    Re: Shishido

    Same goes for Ootori, right? Although we get to know that both of them get owned at singles. Its funny how Ootori with his awesome serve doesn't play singles were it would be more rewarding than in doubles. But then again, huge servers generally dont go that far unless they have a big game to back it up with.

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    Re: Shishido

    Quote Originally Posted by Neru View Post
    Same goes for Ootori, right? Although we get to know that both of them get owned at singles. Its funny how Ootori with his awesome serve doesn't play singles were it would be more rewarding than in doubles. But then again, huge servers generally dont go that far unless they have a big game to back it up with.
    Im not sure...take this with a grain of salt

    When Hyoshi was introduced, everyone was saying "OMFG he beat chotaro in singles >_<"

    But we saw how Hyoshi got smacked by Koshimae..so maybe beating Chotaro isn't that big a deal

    But im pretty sure he'd be okay in singles with that huge serve of his, hitting 215 Km/h serves at will is impressive, and he hardly faults reminds me of Roddick

    @Hinata fan, i forogt about those guys because i forgot there was a saint rudolph
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    Re: Shishido

    Who defeat Shishido in singles? Tachibana?
    If it was Tachibana, it's an excuse. Tachibana is one of the best players of PoT (maybe in TOP 10?)

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    Re: Shishido

    Tachibana beat him 6-0

    I don't know about top 10 but he's up there.

    That said he got beat by sissy atoner Tachibana
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    Re: Shishido

    I personally think Tachibana is better than Fuji, and people say Fuji is top 5. Shame, Tachibana is one of the most underrated captains.
    Last edited by Fayte; June 20, 2009 at 04:14 PM.

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    Re: Shishido

    Yea but that was silly "My triple counters work on anything Fuji" not "comeback from triple match point down and pull a perfect broken counter out of my ass fuji".

    Tachibana is still too soft..i half wish he had his old do what it takes to win attitude, that said he lost to Chitose 7-5 which is really close anyway despite him holding back.
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    Re: Shishido

    Yeah, but remember you can't compare an improved Fuji to an old Tachibana. We have to assume every character will improve at the same rate. So the old Fuji who played the old Tachibana match would end up similar to a new fuji vs a new tachibana.

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    Re: Shishido

    It depends Fayte. A non official match? Yeah, same way. Fuji's racket's strings break, but Tachibana being clearly better. An offical match? Fuji comes up with insane broken counter and what happens after that is anyone's guess.

    Back to Shishido, he is going to lose to Ootori isn't he?

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    Re: Shishido

    I agree with Sherlock,

    I also think,

    We definitely do not have to assume all the characters improve at the same rate. In fact we should not. The central and popular characters always improve more. Sometimes the the lessers don't get anything.

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    Re: Shishido

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock Holmes View Post
    It depends Fayte. A non official match? Yeah, same way. Fuji's racket's strings break, but Tachibana being clearly better. An offical match? Fuji comes up with insane broken counter and what happens after that is anyone's guess.

    Back to Shishido, he is going to lose to Ootori isn't he?
    I'm almost sure, although it has no sense (it was stated swhere that Choutaroh is very bad in singles). In all the "doubles" matches (Oishi-Kiku,Shis-Chou, Bunta-Jackal), the volleyer or special is more popular, and in this U-17 matches, I'm sure that the most popular will win.
    In any case, although I prefer Shisido, I think Ootori is a good character, and the Japan Team will need a fast server (specially if, as we think because of the cover, Inui loses VS mizuki)

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    Re: Shishido

    I would like all of you to please state one single match in the series, that a single character played twice, and didn't improve before or during the match itself.

    lets look at Kirihara. (For example, the Kirihara who played Tachibana was not the same Kirihara who played Echizen, who was not the same Kirihara who played Fuji, Who was not the same Kirihara who played Krauser, who was not the same Kirihara who played with Renji)

    Therefore, every character improves at the same rate, because all characters improve with every match.

    Naturally there are some exceptions.
    Last edited by Fayte; June 21, 2009 at 08:41 PM.

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    Re: Shishido

    That logically MAKES NO SENSE.

    All characters improve therefore they improve at the same rate?

    You need a course in how to avoid fallacious arguments.


    Oh, and I'll give you one example.

    Sengoku. No manga improvement. NONE. He was the same v Momo and v Kamio. (I heard he got stuff in the anime, but not in manga cannon)

    And we know he beat Richard but even in that victory due to how little was shown we still saw no direct improvement.


    But more importantly there are MANY other examples of important and popular characters SOARING in improvements compared to the peripheral guys.

    Do you honestly believe that the saint Rudolph pair improved at the same rate as the Golden Pair? Or that Shinji improved at the same rate as Echizen?

    The better people improve faster. And more importantly in drama the main characters improve faster.
    Last edited by Dansan1; June 21, 2009 at 08:53 PM.

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