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View Poll Results: Ichigo vs Barragan: who would win?

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Thread: Ichigo vs Barragan

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    Ichigo vs Barragan

    Firs things first: for those who don't know Ichigonator is the form Ichigo shown in the fight against Ulquiorra... his hollow form with only primal istincts in control.
    Now I would like to know your opinions about a fight between Ichigonator and Barragan!
    I think Ichigonator may have the upper hand, because he has fast regeneration, which is a good counter technique to Barragan's decay field. I think it's a close fight tough, it depends on how fast is Ichigonator's fast regeneration!

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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    How dare you.

    The Tyrant of Skulls, The Colossus of Fear, the Great Skeleton Emperor will curb stomp him. If Ulq was able to "stop" him with interference Barragan will be able to do the same without any. He was shown capable of analyzing how things works and worked out how to turn Fake KT back and would have done so if his fraccions didn't fail. He'd figure out to destroy the mask and I believe his respira would be able to decay the mask off so it would't return.

    Game. Set. Match. Evil wins... why? Because Good is dumb.
    Last edited by Doombot; May 18, 2009 at 12:54 AM.

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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    wha...

    man, why do you do this?

    Barragain Aging seems to be INSTANT, when Hollow Ichigo regeneration seems to be FAST... so a Death Breath on point blank should be able to kill Hollow Ichigo, then again, If Hollow Ichigo just uses his Cero and Sonido in a combination to dodge a Death Breath and counter with his ultra Cero then Hollow Ichigo wins...
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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaoswind View Post
    wha...

    man, why do you do this?

    Barragain Aging seems to be INSTANT, when Hollow Ichigo regeneration seems to be FAST... so a Death Breath on point blank should be able to kill Hollow Ichigo, then again, If Hollow Ichigo just uses his Cero and Sonido in a combination to dodge a Death Breath and counter with his ultra Cero then Hollow Ichigo wins...
    Barragan seemed pretty fast and we don't know his other skills.. but I think he can take Ichigo with just his basic skill set. Plus Ichigo was only acting on instict and wouldn't see Respira coming.

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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    Given what we have seen now of barragan(meaning that my opinion can change once barragan reveals more), I am inclined to believe hollow ichigo can pull it off. Close range combat is probably a bad idea for hollow ichigo so he would have to rely on his long range attacks. Hollow ichigo's cero proved to be quite deadly and cover a decent amount of ground making it quite hard to escape from. Not to mention the following explosion which as I have pointed out many (MANY) times is comparable in size to las noches. We also have yet to see what hollow ichigo's getsuga tenshou can do. Normal ichigo proved to be able to do some quite powerful GT which covered decent ground at decent speed. If ichigo's hollow form getsuga tenshou is as overpowered as his cero then I could see just a few of those taking barragan out. In any case thats just my initial impression, I am still hoping big things from barragan which could change said impression.

    Edit: I hate the name ichigonator.

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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    how bout horny ichigo?

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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    One problem with all of this, Hollow Ichigo is mindless, his chances to Cero off the bat are about the same as him charging Barragan's Death Aura.

    One of them will lead to Mihogo's(mindless Hollow Ichigo combined until someone thinks of a better nickname) death guaranteed while the other depends on what else Barragan shows.

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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    Edit: I hate the name ichigonator.
    Well you're wrong if you call it Ichigo or Hollow Ichigo... it is a different thing!
    So use an original name, at least!

    @Onomatopeia:
    Hollow Ichigo, Shirosaki, is nowhere near mindless! Don't confuse the casual reader, please!
    The form Ichigo shown in his fight against Ulquiorra is based on primal istincts, a totally different kind of being.
    Last edited by drakend; May 18, 2009 at 01:41 AM.

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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    Can't really say. Both have yet to show the extent of their abilities (Barragan hasn't used black cero and he probably has other abilities/techniques while released we haven't seen [not to mention the possibility of a second release], and Neo Ichigo [I prefer Underscore's name for it over Ichigonator] never used any of Zangetsu's abilities as I'm sure it could if it needed to).

    If I had to guess which would win, I'd say Neo Ichigo. Any attacks from Zangetsu he would use (be it GT or something else) would probably be catastrophic, and I tend to think Barragan wouldn't have enough in his bag of tricks to withstand a destructive onslaught of such a caliber. But again, that's just loose guesswork.

    I'll post again when we've seen more of what Barragan can do.

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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    Quote Originally Posted by drakend View Post
    Well you're wrong if you call it Ichigo or Hollow Ichigo... it is a different thing!
    So use an original name, at least!

    @Onomatopeia:
    Hollow Ichigo, Shirosaki, is nowhere near mindless! Don't confuse the casual reader, please!
    The form Ichigo shown in his fight against Ulquiorra is based on primal istincts, a totally different kind of being.
    You and the casual reader are wrong

    Hollow Ichigo is the name of Ichigo latest transformation because... well HE WAS A FULL HOLLOW

    Shirosaki is just the Hollow personality taking over, is not the same...

    and there is a BIG chance that Hollow Ichigo was indeed Shirosaki, I mean for all we know, when Ichigo defeated him and sealed him in the deeps of his soul, Shirosaki could have lost all/most of his personality :P
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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaoswind View Post
    You and the casual reader are wrong

    Hollow Ichigo is the name of Ichigo latest transformation because... well HE WAS A FULL HOLLOW
    You have some nerve posting this crap acting all mighty: Hollow Ichigo, or Shirosaki, was the name given to the hollow side of Ichigo, who appeared for the first time during the Ichigo vs Kenpachi fight.
    Ah btw... Ichigonator isn't a full hollow because, you know, hollows DO NOT have zanpkatou, a bankai zanpaktou above all...

    Quote Quote:
    Shirosaki is just the Hollow personality taking over, is not the same...
    Is just? LOL
    Without Shirosaki Ichigo's hollow side is just a wild beast, while with him he can use complex techniques and strategies.

    Quote Quote:
    and there is a BIG chance that Hollow Ichigo was indeed Shirosaki, I mean for all we know, when Ichigo defeated him and sealed him in the deeps of his soul, Shirosaki could have lost all/most of his personality :P
    Yeah yeah... Shirosaki would say "I will help you"...
    That wasn't Shirosaki, it was Ichigo's primal istincts, which manifested themselves in an evolved HYBRID form. If you fail to realize that it's your problem.

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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    There is where you are wrong

    In the vizard training Hollow Ichigo (PRIMAL instincts outside and personality inside) was using his sword and said sword was also in Bankai.

    For all we know the SAME happened this time >_>
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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaoswind View Post
    There is where you are wrong

    In the vizard training Hollow Ichigo (PRIMAL instincts outside and personality inside) was using his sword and said sword was also in Bankai.

    For all we know the SAME happened this time >_>
    That time WAS NOT the same... because Ichigo didn't say a single word. At that time it was just a wild hybrid hollow going onto rampage... this time Ichigo was somehow in "control", even if he wasn't able to recognize friends for foes, he had clear his primary target: to help.

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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    So you are saying that a bird that looks like a Duck, flaps its wings like a Duck, swims in the water like a duck, and is YELLOW like a Duck, is not a duck until the damn bird says *quack* -_-?
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    Re: Ichigonator vs Barragan

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaoswind View Post
    So you are saying that a bird that looks like a Duck, flaps its wings like a Duck, swims in the water like a duck, and is YELLOW like a Duck, is not a duck until the damn bird says *quack* -_-?
    Too bad the hybrid hollow of vaizard training and Ichigonator look nothing alike! *quack*

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