Gantz 300 Discussion/301 Prediction Thread

[Amnesiac]

Ah, interesting. I think that might be right too. It might be possible but I don't think that Gantz "imprisons" the aliens in any way. I think its more likely that the only reason we haven't had a full invasion yet is that the "stronger" teams (like the Osaka or the Italy team {I'm basing this "strongness" on the fact that they had at least 1 G-suit} ) are fighting the stonger aliens whilst the "weaker" teams are keeping the weaker aliens (Tanaka mission, Onion mission, Buddha mission, etc...) at bay.

The 'invasion' theory doesn't hold up. If gantz' purpose was to stop an alien invasion he would give proper information to the gantzers, good weaponry and possibly even multiply the good players.

Or better yet, gantz could just send/kill the all aliens himself with his uber sending beam


It's no coincidence that the more gantz started malfunctioning the more chaotic and massive the aliens attacks became.

[宮本寶藏]

I loved the movie “Contact”. I think the Germans definitely know something that’s to be revealed soon. It doesn’t make any sense that anyone will be willing to create Gantz based on an alien language. I just don’t see it happening. Too many risks involved, why would you build an alien technology that you have no idea what it may or may not do? Unless the Germans are already aware of the alien’s ultimatum, I don’t see the reason they started to massively produce the Gantz ball years ago. In any case, it seems a bit farfetched; we’ll see what Oku can cook up.

The vampire’s origin needs to be explained. More Reika boobs needs to be deployed.

Another interesting thing I caught was during the first volume of the Manga. Where Nishi mentioned something about Gantz is not really reliable, sometimes it makes a faxed copy of one person while that person was not yet completely dead. Following that chapter, you’ll see Kishimoto encountered that problem. She went home and found out that her original self did not die. Nishi said something in the first volume about double copies “Either way, only one of you can exist, the other must die” or something akin to that. Makes me wonder, why he said that. He must have encountered something similar throughout his time in Gantz. This is all speculation of course, but maybe Kei2 will die soon. Maybe there is a natural rule in the universe to prevent these things from happening, like sort of like a balance of things. I think I’m starting to confuse myself, anyway, I just thought it was interesting that Nishi said something about the double copies right at volume 1.

[DawgX]

isnt gantz this thursday and next thursday too? (USA thats wednesday)
this been the latest spoiler wait for awhile lol.
this chapter is gonna have lots of talking, i bet bill gates will show kikichi rooms that have aliens sleeping in a tube or something.

Wow thats probably why the mansion is that size. A room for every alien or probably other things such as the weapons.

[Mr.Aaron]

Maybe the Y-Gun sends the aliens back to the mansion, or to a factory for analysis?

Or perhaps it sends the aliens back to their home planet.

[souleater9492]

I have a feeling that there will be a few aliens in the mansion, thats fore sure. It would be sick if the mansion is overlooking the Giant ball. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a laboratory where they're either being studied or bred. That would be insane if there was an Umbrella-esque lab under the mansion. I'm pretty sure the next chapter will end with a ridiculous cliff hanger, with the third chapter in these next three consecutive chapters will be a complete mindfuck.

[Dreagsharr]

It will take some time until we finally have everything revealed. Remember the chapter that first mentioned the katastrophe and we still don't know for sure what it is?

Also now we didn't find everything out, kikuchi got some minor info on some obese girl and that's it. And next chapter probably will bring up more questions and we will wait 3 chapters or more to finally get to a point where we get a bit more info.

I say: expect a long wait to find out whatever you want ...

[roxas_strife2]

The 'invasion' theory doesn't hold up. If gantz' purpose was to stop an alien invasion he would give proper information to the gantzers, good weaponry and possibly even multiply the good players.

Or better yet, gantz could just send/kill the all aliens himself with his uber sending beam


It's no coincidence that the more gantz started malfunctioning the more chaotic and massive the aliens attacks became.

Nothing you said disproved the invasion theory at all. For all we know Gantz may have to follow a certain set of rules or else there will be consequences, maybe there's someone they have to answer to even. My most favored theory is that they are trying to give humanity a fighting chance more so than be our salvation. It would be sort of like inflation if Gantz just kept making people over and over or giving them the stronger weapons, which probably take more to produce than you think. The value of life and true effort would depreciate. You are possibly overestimating Gantz's resources, and underestimating the aliens that appear to be his enemy. Anyways, my point is you're statement lacks support, is presumptuous, and isn't something I would say with the knowledge we have at the moment.

I loved the movie “Contact”. I think the Germans definitely know something that’s to be revealed soon. It doesn’t make any sense that anyone will be willing to create Gantz based on an alien language. I just don’t see it happening. Too many risks involved, why would you build an alien technology that you have no idea what it may or may not do? Unless the Germans are already aware of the alien’s ultimatum, I don’t see the reason they started to massively produce the Gantz ball years ago. In any case, it seems a bit farfetched; we’ll see what Oku can cook up.

The vampire’s origin needs to be explained. More Reika boobs needs to be deployed.

Another interesting thing I caught was during the first volume of the Manga. Where Nishi mentioned something about Gantz is not really reliable, sometimes it makes a faxed copy of one person while that person was not yet completely dead. Following that chapter, you’ll see Kishimoto encountered that problem. She went home and found out that her original self did not die. Nishi said something in the first volume about double copies “Either way, only one of you can exist, the other must die” or something akin to that. Makes me wonder, why he said that. He must have encountered something similar throughout his time in Gantz. This is all speculation of course, but maybe Kei2 will die soon. Maybe there is a natural rule in the universe to prevent these things from happening, like sort of like a balance of things. I think I’m starting to confuse myself, anyway, I just thought it was interesting that Nishi said something about the double copies right at volume 1.

Actually, that happens in volume two, and he doesn't say anything to the effect of “Either way, only one of you can exist, the other must die”. I'm not saying that it's not possible that that is a rule of the universe and maybe even a theme in Gantz, but there's nothing supporting it at this time.

I have a feeling that there will be a few aliens in the mansion, thats fore sure. It would be sick if the mansion is overlooking the Giant ball. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a laboratory where they're either being studied or bred. That would be insane if there was an Umbrella-esque lab under the mansion. I'm pretty sure the next chapter will end with a ridiculous cliff hanger, with the third chapter in these next three consecutive chapters will be a complete mindfuck.

That would be a little disappointing. It might would take away from some of the great originality Gantz has had thus far. I don't want anything Umbrella-esque really because most of the things we know about Gantz so far have been technological more so than biological, and a lot of biological weapon stories get a little too fantastical for my taste. I just would rather it stay more about technology when it comes to Gantz, but I want the aliens to be more about biological capabilities. That's what makes them so damn bizarre. Makes things more intense for me too.

The only biological weapons we've really seen so far I would say is a majority of the aliens, and I know that's assuming most aren't using technology. It's hard to say for Tanaka aliens and the statue aliens. Everything like the suits, Gantz men, and vampires has to do with some form of technology.

[Amnesiac]

Nothing you said disproved the invasion theory at all. For all we know Gantz may have to follow a certain set of rules or else there will be consequences, maybe there's someone they have to answer to even. My most favored theory is that they are trying to give humanity a fighting chance more so than be our salvation. It would be sort of like inflation if Gantz just kept making people over and over or giving them the stronger weapons, which probably take more to produce than you think. The value of life and true effort would depreciate. You are possibly overestimating Gantz's resources, and underestimating the aliens that appear to be his enemy. Anyways, my point is you're statement lacks support, is presumptuous, and isn't something I would say with the knowledge we have at the moment.

That doesn't make any sense.

First, in war the soldiers aren't random clueless civilians. The soldiers are trained, properly briefed and organized. Second, gantz has shown over and over again that he cares not for the value of human life or human moral valours.

If gantz' primary purpose was truly to exterminate the aliens, there's no logical reason to think he wouldn't, at the very least, fully brief and equip the players. The only limitations gantz has been shown to have are the apparent rules he has to obey, but again, those limitations don't make sense from an invasion point of view.

Gantz' behaviour and the structuring of the missions give more credence to the ideas that it's all a game or some sort of experiment.

[roxas_strife2]

In the type of warfare we are familar with there isn't a point system, you aren't brought back from the dead to be there, you won't have the opportunity to revive your friends, and there's normally going to be more information about your enemy, useful information for that matter. I agree that it is more game like, but for all we know every mission we've seen up till now was just one hardcore preparation for the real thing that just so happen to involve direct conflict with the enemy. Gantz gives them everything they need, that being the weapons, and the better soldiers get the better weapons, or should I say they at least have the opportunity to. Everybody who is entered has the opportunity to learn about what they need to, and if you think about it Gantz may even have a higher success rate by not just spilling everything and not just handing everything to them. Again, this could come back to resources.

What you say about Gantz is presumptuous because it implies that all the people in the balls are that way, and you can't exactly say you know the one in the Tokyo teams ball because you've only seen him under one circumstance up until recently, that circumstance being when it involved a mission. The only real evidence that he doesn't really care about human life would be what he had Izumi do, assuming that he was the one who chose to send that to Izumi in the first place. Gantz does pursue people who are more likely to play the game and play it well, even though he has been said to be lazy about it most the time.

I never said anything about Ganz's purpose being to exterminate the aliens, but I said that I favor the idea that it is all to give us a fighting chance. It probably is some sort of game to whoever is running the show, who may not even be human in light of new revelations that are in the spoilers, so I can't post them here, but just because it is game like doesn't mean catastrophe won't be an invasion. I'm sure it'll be a lot more intricate of an invasion than what any of us have in mind if it is indeed an invasion. There's not really any theories that are more likely than the one about catastrophe being an invasion either, that is if Nishi is correct and catastrophe is indeed catastrophic. I highly doubt the nuclear war part, but the part about an invincible army descending to Earth doesn't sound that far out.

http://read.mangashare.com/Gantz/cha...0/page014.html

[Amnesiac]

I never said anything about Ganz's purpose being to exterminate the aliens, but I said that I favor the idea that it is all to give us a fighting chance. It probably is some sort of game to whoever is running the show

That's different then.

I highly doubt the nuclear war part, but the part about an invincible army descending to Earth doesn't sound that far out.

http://read.mangashare.com/Gantz/cha...0/page014.html

Njt's translation is different there:
Everything of value that humans have accumulated thus far will all collapse. Those with a powerful arsenal will take control of the land. And the likes of you guys will be of the first to die.
http://mangahelpers.com/t/njt/releases/1830


If chapter 301 doesn't come out soon I think I'm gonna lose it and look at the spoilers. =|

[roxas_strife2]

I know there's other translations of it, those were the first ones I read actually, but I usually trust the scanlation that comes out last or has the highest quality more than any of the others. That's why I always reread the chapter when I find the scanlation being done by another group. Mangashare almost always has the highest quality of Gantz chapters you'll find around in my experience, which is why it's the one I use most.