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Thread: This week (Road 94-95-96-97-98-99) Discussion and predictions

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    This week (Road 94-95-96-97-98-99) Discussion and predictions

    well, this week it's my turn to start the topic

    i liked when the little natureza touched his first *true* soccer ball, so sweet child!



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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    well, other than the juggling, Naturezza if playing a football skill (without the acrobatic display and the dazzling dribble). And true tactic of football with simple 1-2 passing and backheel (looks very alike with Tevez goal against Wigan). A clear nutmeg and not the Aurora Feint nor Chokkaku Feint.

    But Rail doesn't show little of the real Raul characteristic (kissing badge).

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    Nice chapter. Thnx to SHINJI and SILEN once again for an early release.

    Back to the topic, like i predicted REAL draws the first blood. Though Natureza is not the first one to score. Look how Tsubasa looks totally lost. He was so ready to score the first goal and must now be kicking himself that he could not.

    Just waiting to see what his reaction will be.. Will he say the same statement that the way of Barca is to give double to what it takes?

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    Why didn't the goalkeeper react at all to the shot? Yeah I know it was fast, but he could have jumped and tried his luck.

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

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    Why didn't the goalkeeper react at all to the shot? Yeah I know it was fast, but he could have jumped and tried his luck.
    Cuz the keeper sucks, remember Robercaros's Super long shot? I know he has a really good left foot and everything, but either the shot was so fast he couldn't react or the keeper just sucked cuz he saved it with one hnd - surely you could catch it with two hand no problem! This is Captain Tsubasa I suppose.

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    How can a keeper react if he doesn't even know that it's coming?

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    He should know that it wouldn't necessarily come from Natureza. He's not the only striker of the team.

    Rail was in his field of vision (even I would have seen that) plus the shot wasn't that close. His positioning was quite bad as well. But at least I was expecting him to do a move to save face.

    I think part of the problem as well was the defense for not stricter marking on rail.
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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    Saying "he should have" is always easy when you know how it ends You can say "he should have" for every goal of the entire series >_> You'd probably still blame Rechard if he was positioned to stop Rail, and Natureza scored. Thing is, Rechard was perfectly positioned to stop Natureza, and Natureza was the threat.

    You can't say what Rechard actually had in his field of vision...

    On the other hand, if you look at how Takahashi displayed the action, it should be obvious to you that it was completely unexpected.
    -In this chapter, look at the picture when we, readers, saw Rail for the first time. The *first* picture he appears in is the one when the ball was already in the net. In usual shooting situations where the shoot can actually be stopped (or when the keeper can at least try to stop it), you can always see the player trapping the ball or gets in shoot position, or see him shoot with the speaker saying something.
    -Even after the goal, the speaker is surprised of the outcome, hesitating to say "Goal", and taking some time before realizing that Rail scored.

    This is supposed to show you that it was completely unexpected, and that it was too late as soon as Rail was noticed.

    Actually, even if Rechard isn't probably such a good keeper, if I was to blame someone, I'd blame the players who let Rail free.

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    yeah that's what i'm saying. the defenders should have closed rail earlier.

    I wouldn't blame him if he was properly positioned.

    better positioning compensates for slower reaction.

    Rechard had rail in his field of vision, otherwise he's blind or something. he might be concentrated on natureza, but rail is in his field of vision.

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    But, again, he's positioned, to stop Natureza, it would be stupid for Rechard to be positioned in front of Rail if Natureza is the threat, he'd just let a huge gap for Natureza. You can't say that he has slow reaction as well if Takahashi himself drew the situation in a way that says "no one could have reacted".

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    ok so natureza gets past gonzales, where do you think he was going to shoot? I don't think he would attempt a goal at a closed angle by rechard.

    I think Rechard has slow reaction based on the robecaro shoot. Anyway, I'm just disappointed in barca. The attack was good though, but the defense leaves a lot to be desired.
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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    Quick, simple and yet fascinating, and ultimately a goal. Nice one Takahashi! Keep them coming

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    SantaBla: It's not like Natureza's the kind of player who's limited with straight shoots. He'd probably do something fancier, but I guess that a loop shoot should be enough.

    That doesn't necessarly mean that he has slow reaction. He's the only one who reacted, after all. Maybe he was ready to catch the moment Robecaro shoot, but it may be just his grip in the end.

    Anyway even if Rechard is indeed not so good, every keeper can be blamed with every shoot he's taking.

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    I doubt any goalkeeper could have gotten the the ball.
    First of all, he was concentrated on Natureza, who was storming into the penalty area and positioned accordingly to the left side, which let the right side open.

    Then he expected a shot and was ready to face it, then instead he lifted it to the other side. We would need to know who fast the pass was, but looking at Gonzales still in the Move and nearly the same position as at the beginning of the pass, the speed has to be pretty fast. The shot itself was quite fast too.

    The only things what the GK could do are either doing a stepside or immediately fall down or jump without moving. He would never got enough speed to reach the other side in just these seconds.
    Okay, at least he could try moving, but it seems that the playing was so fast, he only could move his head.

    I mean... how to reach other end of the goal in around... 1 second when you just stood still?

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    Re: This week (Road 94) Discussion and predictions

    Invis, for everything you've said, all you need to do is look at Wakabayashi's saves and see how attacks like this are (easily) handled

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