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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    Quote Originally Posted by Anbu RenBoy View Post
    Correction http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/358/17/

    He says he has never tried this in bankai, so like I said that move shouldn't be classified


    Hitsugayas Bankai is mature. The technique he used is Hyorinmaru's but Hitsugaya processed it into his bankai
    hmmm...you're right.

    Meaning that, Hitsugaya's Bankai is mature, but his powers isn't. So he can still be stronger in order to use perfectly and with better power all of Hyorinmaru techniques.

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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    Quote Originally Posted by Anbu RenBoy View Post
    Didn't Aizen Say he had reached his limits, therefore he should be 100? Shouldn't he

    Or does that not apply because that is his limit and not others

    Usually there is no such thing as perfection even in the manga, characters with max development of each and every possible ability are not widely used.

    Yamamoto is done with every aspect but probably it took him too long and he lacks strenght now so he isn't 100 everywhere.

    Aizen is very intelligent, has such a powerful zanpaktou, knows kido on the highest level and has 100 in offence, his flashsteps/agility are practically on their max. These all are enough for him to be called practically invincible and unbeatable among shinigami. And to improve significantly, increase his overall state the only way is to go further and use hollowfication to obtain a mask which gives new powers.
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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    Quote Originally Posted by Bolshoi Hui View Post
    Usually there is no such thing as perfection even in the manga, characters with max development of each and every possible ability are not widely used.

    Yamamoto is done with every aspect but probably it took him too long and he lacks strenght now so he isn't 100 everywhere.

    Aizen is very intelligent, has such a powerful zanpaktou, knows kido on the highest level and has 100 in offence, his flashsteps/agility are practically on their max. These all are enough for him to be called practically invincible and unbeatable among shinigami. And to improve significantly, increase his overall state the only way is to go further and use hollowfication to obtain a mask which gives new powers.

    So are you trying to say that Yamamotos limit is different to Aizens limit.

    If not you were not answering my question, but telling me something I already know


    Quote Originally Posted by street_san View Post
    hmmm...you're right.

    Meaning that, Hitsugaya's Bankai is mature, but his powers isn't. So he can still be stronger in order to use perfectly and with better power all of Hyorinmaru techniques.
    Thank you, for agreeing
    Last edited by -Ren Boy-; June 07, 2009 at 04:34 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    Quote Originally Posted by Anbu RenBoy View Post
    So are you trying to say that Yamamotos limit is different to Aizens limit.

    If not you were not answering my question, but telling me something I already know
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    I'm not captain evidence to repeat that everyone has its own potential and limits, no.

    I'm explaining to you why Aizen said that he reached his limits as a shinigami though doesn't have 100 everywhere. Also who knows, he may have become faster and stronger as other characters and probably by the time of the battle in FKT he is full of 100'ds.

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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    The reason he went to Hueco is so that he can increase the value of his own 100s.

    It was evident that he's not perfect when he said that he only managed to release 1/3 of that dark coffin destruction force.
    He probably wasn't too happy when he saw his limits.

    Hitsugaya's stats make sense. He is extremely talented for his age (or so they say), so it's natural that he excels in all disciplines. I would just like to know how his 100 compares to Yamamoto's 100. He's still a kid, still growing, and his potential will increase once he and his body mature.

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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    Would it be possible to get a translation of the info on the pages?

    For translations of the captain pages, visit this page which has links to pages providing translations of the texts ~ Tsukisama
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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    If I may ask and recieve an answer; when did this book get published/released/come out? thanks in advance just in case I'm not on. =D
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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    Quote Originally Posted by hossice View Post
    If I may ask and recieve an answer; when did this book get published/released/come out? thanks in advance just in case I'm not on. =D
    There have been three Bleach databooks released. The first two, Bleach: Official Character Book Souls and Bleach: Official Animation Book Vibes were released on February 3, 2006. The third, Bleach Official Bootleg: KaraBuri+ (BLEACH OFFICIAL BOOTLEG カラブリ プラス), was released on August 3, 2007. (Source: Wikipedia)

    I am not entirely certain from which of the three books these stats, but I believe they are probably from Bleach: Official Character Book Souls, given the information on the captains, but it is possible it is from the third. The second one deals with the anime series.

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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    first time i ever looked at this and this is interesting, but i imagine by now where the manga is, those overall states have changed greatly.

    yamamoto and aizen are probably the only ones who have remained the same and i cannot wait till' the day we get to see unohana in action, i'm egging to see her fight finally. maybe she'll be the one to defeat yammy in HM.

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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    What I don't get is, if Hitsugaya's a genius and has worlds of potential ahead of him, why is he pretty much 80% for most of his stats? Doesn't seem like very much potential to me. He's like, close to maxed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikidoka View Post
    What I don't get is, if Hitsugaya's a genius and has worlds of potential ahead of him, why is he pretty much 80% for most of his stats? Doesn't seem like very much potential to me. He's like, close to maxed out.

    yeah i agree i think the databooks are a bunch of bull because according to them hitsugaya doesnt have alot of potential and aizen said he maxed out in everything and he obviously had some room to improve even if not a lot

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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    Quote Originally Posted by Aikidoka View Post
    What I don't get is, if Hitsugaya's a genius and has worlds of potential ahead of him, why is he pretty much 80% for most of his stats? Doesn't seem like very much potential to me. He's like, close to maxed out.
    Maybe his potential is in his large reiatsu reserves, like Kenpachi and Ichigo. This would explain a couple of things. Like why Hitsugaya and Kenpachi became so strong so quickly. They learned how to tap more into their reserves.
    Hitsugaya is a genius so he should be able to learn how to tap into it quickly. Kenpachi has the most reiastu, so he has more to tap into. And Ichigo has an extremely large growth rate.
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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    Quote Originally Posted by juice88 View Post
    yeah i agree i think the databooks are a bunch of bull because according to them hitsugaya doesnt have alot of potential and aizen said he maxed out in everything and he obviously had some room to improve even if not a lot
    Actually, Aizen never said that he maxed out everything. He said that he has reached his limits as a shinigami, and in some areas he has. He has, for example, apparently reached his limit in kidou and yet cannot cast a level 90 hadou without incantation at full power. This is probably disappointing to him, and thus he is well aware of his limits as a shinigami, giving him a motive to want to surpass them.

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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    Quote Originally Posted by Aikidoka View Post
    What I don't get is, if Hitsugaya's a genius and has worlds of potential ahead of him, why is he pretty much 80% for most of his stats? Doesn't seem like very much potential to me. He's like, close to maxed out.
    He's still a kid you know? He may have almost maxed his potential now, but there's a lot of room for improvement. For example, his muscles can only grow to a certain limit while he's a kid. When he grows to look like Byakuya, his muscles can develop more. With age, his knowledge and experience increases too.
    That's why, Yamamoto's 100 is not the same as Hitsugaya's 100.

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    Re: Databook Stats - Captains Gotei 13

    Quote Originally Posted by Aikidoka View Post
    What I don't get is, if Hitsugaya's a genius and has worlds of potential ahead of him, why is he pretty much 80% for most of his stats? Doesn't seem like very much potential to me. He's like, close to maxed out.
    What's wrong with having 80% for most of his stats and why does that mean he's maxed out? He still has 20% to improve with his "potential" and "genius" to get to 100% like Yamamoto has for most of his stats.

    Question: The stats in that data-book are based comparatively, right? For example, Yamamoto having 100% in attack means that he has awesome attack compared to the other captains (?)


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