Mahou Sensei Negima Volume 28 (254-258)

[ZeroUrashima]

Yeah, Negi "won" with both of his opponents almost half-dead/rendered immobile. Like Gilgamesh did not "lose" against Shirou in FSN with a blade in his skull.

But still, if the actual raw shows Negi not using his armationem on Godel, then we can't really say that he's stronger or at the same level as Rakan.

On the other hand, I can kinda read on that spoiler that Godel expected his attack to have been softened by Asuna's kankahou. This is probably the start of Shiori's disguise being revealed.

With or without Erebea, there is nothing you can say about his strength compared to Rakan. Even with Duplex Complexio, Negi couldn't do anything against Rakan, he could only fight on equal terms because he absorbed Rakan's Power momentarily. The Power he took from Rakan ran out a long time ago, even if Godel beat Negi at full power and fully prepared, you can't say he's on the same level as Rakan or not since Negi's full power now is lower than the match. (Contract Expired and lost of Rakan Power).

With that instant absorb magic circle, the best he can do in a fight depends on the power of the opponent. So using fights against Negi isn't really valid to compare strength if that move kicks in.

[eyesotope]

Even with the hard hits Negi took against Rakan. I would say that it was a similar fight. Rakan testing Negi and using the tournament as a "final exam".

Rakan fought Negi without killing intent, but besides that he didn't hold back.. Negi said that "he chose to fight me as his student rather than his enemy" but if you take a look at Rakan's fight with Fate's girls or even his fight with Nagi in the flashback, you'll see that Rakan almost always fights without killing intent, rather he fights just for the fun and heck of it..

Asuna failed in her position of Pactio partner. Whether this is due to Shiori being an imperfect clone of and/or Asuna herself just not being fast or strong enough to counter a high level Shinmeiryu swordsman yet, is up for large discussion.

this this will be an interesting debate topic, though it seems that Godel is a more advanced Shinmeiryu user than Setsuna as he used a skill that was never shown before in the manga.. supposedly, it's the more advanced version of the stone cleaving sword http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima!/29/16/

I'm actually glad negi is acting like a kid just this time
I would be boring if he was a mature man at 10
and I like to see him express himself

for me it's the opposite.. Negi always acts maturely and plays the part that shows how he is responsible for an entire class of students, but now Akamatsu has him charging in madly because some guy he sees for the first time shows up and insults a woman that may or may not be his mother for all he knows..

feels to me like a plot device from Akamatsu to get him beaten down.. the only time I remember him getting provoked to charging like that was by Kotarou back in volume 7

Even with Duplex Complexio, Negi couldn't do anything against Rakan

Rakan couldn't do anything to him either
at least duplex complexio Negi was landing hits on Rakan.. Rakan was just swinging his hands in the air

[ZeroUrashima]

Rakan couldn't do anything to him either
at least duplex complexio Negi was landing hits on Rakan.. Rakan was just swinging his hands in the air

>_>
<_<
True but Rakan could just wait until Negi runs out of stamina. Or try landing a lucky punch. One hit and the tide is pretty much turned around. Negi couldn't get any damage in at all unless he tries point blank range spells (and big ones at all) but that's just a race against his Magic Stamina instead. Also, Rakan was just watching him when Negi was out of breath, he technically could defeat him IMO.

[daman246]

negis still not even close to rakan lvl he takes to much time to activate magia erebea 2 layers

[eyesotope]

luck or no luck, Rakan wasn't going to land a punch on Negi.. as far as Negi was concerned Rakan was in slo-mo mode. in a sense it was Rakan who was furtunate that his partner (Kagetarou) was strong enough to keep ensis exorcizans occupied..
if Negi had it while in raiten taisou two he would've sliced Rakan when he was swinging at the air, as neither Rakan's artifact nor his ki defence can stop Asuna's sword..

Negi's artifact is one of the most overpowered abilities we've seen in the series, no wonder it's temporary..
and speaking of which, I wonder if it has been canceled/revoked by now or does Negi still have it? if he's still got it he can use Kaede's artifact to heal himself, use whatever armationem he wants then come back with hell to return to Godel..
it's just too bad Kotarou wasn't tagging along.

[Devilen]

and speaking of which, I wonder if it has been canceled/revoked by now or does Negi still have it? if he's still got it he can use Kaede's artifact to heal himself, use whatever armationem he wants then come back with hell to return to Godel..
it's just too bad Kotarou wasn't tagging along.

Konoka's artifact is the healing one

Kaedes is the Clown Car Base Cloak

[eyesotope]

Konoka's artifact is the healing one

Kaedes is the Clown Car Base Cloak

lol I meant conceal himself in the cloak, cast a healing spell on himself (he can do that you know), cast another spell (or double spell ) for armationem, then exit the cloak

[ninjapet]

Konoka's artifact is the healing one

Kaedes is the Clown Car Base Cloak

I still find that artifact to be some what kick ass, even if they have only showed it once

also they used Konoka's artifact after the fight, it only healed like 1/3 of there wounds. We haven't seen Negi's temp pactio artifact after the fight and the quick heal so I think the temp pactio is over

[eyesotope]

I always thought that revoking the pactio will require some kind of ceremony or ritual kind of similar to the pactio ceremony.. or does it just go 'POOF' when the time limit is reached?

[daman246]

rakan is like 10time stronger then negi in power and in speed idk but what negis is missing in instic hes mind is not as fast as rakan i dont blame him for losing agaist that teacher or whatever

[ZeroUrashima]

luck or no luck, Rakan wasn't going to land a punch on Negi.. as far as Negi was concerned Rakan was in slo-mo mode. in a sense it was Rakan who was furtunate that his partner (Kagetarou) was strong enough to keep ensis exorcizans occupied..
if Negi had it while in raiten taisou two he would've sliced Rakan when he was swinging at the air, as neither Rakan's artifact nor his ki defence can stop Asuna's sword..

Negi's artifact is one of the most overpowered abilities we've seen in the series, no wonder it's temporary..
and speaking of which, I wonder if it has been canceled/revoked by now or does Negi still have it? if he's still got it he can use Kaede's artifact to heal himself, use whatever armationem he wants then come back with hell to return to Godel..
it's just too bad Kotarou wasn't tagging along.

Well, if Negi was fighting while borrowing the artifacts from his team, I don't think Rakan would go easy on him in the first half. Btw, although hama no tsurugi (or whatever it's called in Latin) cancels Ki Bullets, I don't think it can go through Ki Defense, it would be too overpowered otherwise =/ I mean, it's supposed to the nemesis of Mages, not every single Fighter. I always found it weird when they used it against Rakan, or maybe Rakan uses Magic Power in his Ki Bullets too so it can be cancelled? Meh, I don't know. That sword is messed up recently, too overpowered if all defenses are just paper to it.

When Asuna cut through Setsuna's Brush back in Mahora Tournament. It felt like although enforced by Ki, it's still a brush. Against a sword enforced itself, being broken felt natural. There isn't enough scenes about that sword being used and actually hitting people. It seems to work against Ki Projectiles and Magic overall but honestly, I hope it doesn't work against Ki Defense.

[Maedhros]

Hey guys, the RAW is out on raw-paradise. Dunno why it's not here yet... D:

[king_crimson-]

Btw, although hama no tsurugi (or whatever it's called in Latin) cancels Ki Bullets, I don't think it can go through Ki Defense, it would be too overpowered otherwise

nono the only difference between ki and magic power is the source, they're the same thing otherwise, asuna's sword *is* that overpowered...afterall, it's like a cristallization of asuna's power

and btw: how the heck can you guys even think that godel might be even close to rakan? i mean, it's jack friggin rakan we're talking about here, a completely broken character, it's considered so even in the manga itself, a guy on the same level as nagi or eva...come on...

[veron05]

agreed, Godel i think is near fate's level of power if anything just below.(or fate him self) now it seams negi has to find out how to deal with a swordsman in a real battle (i under stand rakan is a swordsman as well but every time he brought out his sword they where magical and negi could beat it with asuna's artifact). what we need now is for some one like setsuna and konoka to step in. now if that happens i belive that when konoka try's to heal shiori-asuna her identity could be revealed. and setsuna can deal with godel.

[KaNx]

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