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Thread: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Gotta love how Brandnewkid reads what he wants to read and takes things I say out of context, PLUS puts words in my mouth.

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    It's nothing like that at all.
    Actually, it is. Keep reading the context of my post and maybe it will come to you.

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    First off, lets get one thing clear. You do realize that the Shukuchiho is an actual East Asian martial arts technique?
    Pointless.

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    Now, Sanada is physically strong? I don't see how you can use that as a point, seeing how Kite is an expert at Okinawan martial arts.
    If you read my post, you would see me saying Sanada's strength would be his counter to BIG BANG. Kite being an expert in martial arts has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING I said, which scares me. I don't know how you found that in the text.

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    And all this talk about gimp Tezuka does nothing for me, considering Kite's skills and reputation as a player even had Sanada and the rest of Rikkai worried for a second.
    Worried about what? If you mean worried that gimp Tezuka would lose, yes. If you mean worried about TRUE Tezuka losing, HELL NO.

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    Neither is "Sanada has Ka so he is physically stronger than Kite" like he said.
    This is the problem right here. Put words in my mouth.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandnewkid View Post
    Wtf?
    Poker Face, you mean the thing he used against Momo? When he closed his mind?

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LetalHawk View Post
    Poker Face, you mean the thing he used against Momo? When he closed his mind?
    How is World of Ice too much for Oshitari though?

    Guys, just because he's Atobe doesn't mean he's Sanada/Yukimura/Ryoma/Tezuka-leveled.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandnewkid View Post
    How is World of Ice too much for Oshitari though?

    Guys, just because he's Atobe doesn't mean he's Sanada/Yukimura/Ryoma/Tezuka-leveled.
    Unless he has a zone, how he's going to break it?

    Oshitari for sure has external blind spots. Few people doesn't have (Yukimura, Irie...)

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

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    How is World of Ice too much for Oshitari though?
    Oshitari almost lost to Momo. Case closed.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    Oshitari almost lost to Momo. Case closed.
    Perfectly said, and Momo is nowhere near Atobe's level.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandnewkid View Post
    But to me, I think it's common sense. Oshitari's Pokerface hides all of his habitual movements and such, giving the impression that he isn't even there. The effect is similar to that of Sanada's In. If the person isn't even there, how can Atobe use his insight?
    I think the discrepancy here may stem from the translation of Momo's "Insight", which in actuality is completely different from Atobe's.

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    Sai the Shaman (09:52:26 AM): Atobe never says insight when talking about momo
    Sai the Shaman (09:52:52 AM): while the term used can be read as insight technically, its not the same insight he means when refering to his own
    Sai the Shaman (09:53:02 AM): for momo he means more perception ability
    Oshitari can close his mind, so Momo's ability to read him is neutralized. Atobe however does no such thing as reading his opponents with Insight in that same sense, he actually looks for physical traits, something that's impossible for Oshitari to conceal to our knowledge.

    In order to counter KnS, you need a combination of extraordinary speed, field of vision, flexibility and reaction time, none of which is increased by closing your mind (I guess you could argue flexibility in a way, but it's iffy imo).

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Momo's insight is what I named "Calm Insight" and Atobe's is just "Insight". I reckon using "Calm Insight" for future reference to Momo's can prevent confusion.
    "Sorry, but I never lose to the same opponent twice." - Fuji

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Or, in the words of our friendly translator for one chapter of PoT, "Freaky Weatherman Momo."

    Spoiler show

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    If you read my post, you would see me saying Sanada's strength would be his counter to BIG BANG. Kite being an expert in martial arts has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING I said, which scares me. I don't know how you found that in the text.
    Difficult to prove. I believe he would use Rai to counter Big Bang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji Kikumaru View Post
    Makeshift, the only two high-level Ms pairs are the Golden Pair and Marui-Jackal...

    I really want to see Kikumaru pairing with someone that isn´t Oishi (nor Niou...who would obviously transform into Oishi)
    WTF??

    How did this go unnoticed??
    Tachibana/Chitose, Shishido/Ootori, Niou/Yagyuu, Shiraishi/Oshitari. K all canon powerful pairs.
    INUI/YANAGI FFS LOL. Seriously think before you type lol.

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    Ive got to say, Atobe > Kite and Atobe > Marui arent really discussions.

    And they dont really belong in this thread, but it could Marui could have been solved with Atobe using AK and that Marui cant reply to it.
    And that Atobe has AK against Kite, and that teleporting cant really save you from AK, just the fact that Mouri had to dislocate his arm, shows that you honestly cant move against AK.

    This shitstorm wasnt needed.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes
    Difficult to prove. I believe he would use Rai to counter Big Bang.
    Difficult to prove? No it isn't lol. Big Bang is old news x10. Sanada could return that crap with his left hand, and blind folded. I'm sure you would have no problems with saying Yukimura could do the same thing. In terms of base skill (ie: no yips), Sanada and Yukimura are virtually identical. If anything, Yukimura would have more technique, and Sanada would have more power, which doesn't really change much at all. To say that Yukimura could easily return Big Bang (which he can, and has), then Sanada could also, without needing to use Rai. I mean come on, even Echizen returned it by simply jumping backwards, and he is a weakling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Tachibana/Chitose, Shishido/Ootori, Niou/Yagyuu, Shiraishi/Oshitari. K all canon powerful pairs.
    INUI/YANAGI FFS LOL. Seriously think before you type lol.
    I said ¨high-level Ms pairs¨, the rest are in a lower tier...

    Tachibana/Chitose? We have already seen them playing, nothing special.

    Shishido/Ootori? Really? They are good, but they are actually in a lower level without any doubt.

    Niou/Yagyuu? Niou + anyone is a great pair...

    Shiraishi/Oshitari? I don´t remember the last time I saw them playing a canon match, I think never...

    Data Pair is strong though...

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    I think Tachibana/Chitose will eventually become one of the best pairs. The whole secret synchro thing that Konomi did makes it sound like there will be more of them in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji Kikumaru View Post
    I said ¨high-level Ms pairs¨, the rest are in a lower tier...

    Tachibana/Chitose? We have already seen them playing, nothing special.

    Shishido/Ootori? Really? They are good, but they are actually in a lower level without any doubt.

    Niou/Yagyuu? Niou + anyone is a great pair...

    Shiraishi/Oshitari? I don´t remember the last time I saw them playing a canon match, I think never...

    Data Pair is strong though...
    Niou/Yagyuu nonetheless is still a canon-pair, Data Pair like I said and dont sleep on Tachibana/Chitose.
    They have been hyped up for a reason.

    Im certain there were complications in their loss to Washio/Suzuki.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fayte View Post
    Difficult to prove? No it isn't lol. Big Bang is old news x10. Sanada could return that crap with his left hand, and blind folded. I'm sure you would have no problems with saying Yukimura could do the same thing. In terms of base skill (ie: no yips), Sanada and Yukimura are virtually identical. If anything, Yukimura would have more technique, and Sanada would have more power, which doesn't really change much at all. To say that Yukimura could easily return Big Bang (which he can, and has), then Sanada could also, without needing to use Rai. I mean come on, even Echizen returned it by simply jumping backwards, and he is a weakling.
    Excluding what I put in bold. (They cant do it blind-folded) Its a fair point.

    And its not if anything, Yukimura was handed the what could possibly be still, amongst the highest levels of technique in the whole camp, all because Konomi completely overpowered him as a final boss.

    It only just hit me how overpowered he is. For somebody who spent from the Districts to the Regionals in a hospital bed at that too.

    Sanada having more power is totally legit. He puts holes through rackets.
    Last edited by Airgrimes; July 19, 2012 at 11:29 AM.

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    Re: Shin Prince of Tennis Hangout Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes
    Excluding what I put in bold. (They cant do it blind-folded) Its a fair point.
    Me saying that is part hyperbole and part serious. They are too high a tier to for Big Bang to have any effect on them whatsoever. It's like every other serve. It all depends on the tier of the person hitting it.

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