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Thread: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

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    Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    Rules and conditions:

    1. Fight takes place in the air.

    Edit: Is there any way to go back and add a prefix?
    Last edited by En Yang Ji; June 19, 2009 at 04:08 AM.

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    Dude you forgot to put the poll, but wait for my answer in a few hours

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    Toshiro can freeze Senbonzakura but i can't see him neither as a winner nor as loser

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    I wouldn't say that Toshiro can freeze all of senbonzakura together, I mean, when have we seen toshiro freeze a zanpakutou?

    I'll think this one over and reply later.

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    Imo I don't think Hitsugaya can just freeze senbonzakura. I mean, if he could freeze things without even touching them, why wouldn't he have just done that to everybody ?If Hitsugaya has to touch them to freeze them he probably take severe damage before freezing them, at least he has a really fast reaction time.

    There's also senki and rikoujou koro. I think Byakuya would win.

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    Byakuya can easily counter the technique hitsu used against harribel with senbonsakura. He does not even need bankai for that.

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    Hitsu, easily. Their bankais are similar, but when it comes to reasonable (I'm not including aizen's fight because aizen is way out of either of them's league) opponents:

    * Hitsu nearly lost to shawlong, but that was under the limit. Once the limit was lifted it was an instant kill
    * hitsu took out the 6th espada on one hit. Would've killed him if the negacion hadn't saved him. Granted, he did have time to prepare the attack but still...
    * has performed better so far against the 3rd espada than byakuya did against the 7th

    Byakuya
    * lost to a newbie with bankai who got murdered by the 4th espada while in bankai and with good mastery of his hollow form
    * lost an arm and a leg (temporarily) to the 7th espada

    I think the winner is clear.

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post
    Hitsu, easily. Their bankais are similar, but when it comes to reasonable (I'm not including aizen's fight because aizen is way out of either of them's league) opponents:

    * Hitsu nearly lost to shawlong, but that was under the limit. Once the limit was lifted it was an instant kill
    * hitsu took out the 6th espada on one hit. Would've killed him if the negacion hadn't saved him. Granted, he did have time to prepare the attack but still...
    * has performed better so far against the 3rd espada than byakuya did against the 7th

    Byakuya
    * lost to a newbie with bankai who got murdered by the 4th espada while in bankai and with good mastery of his hollow form
    * lost an arm and a leg (temporarily) to the 7th espada

    I think the winner is clear.
    - Hitsu may have taken out Luppi in one hit, but Luppi didn't decide to finish him when had the advantage.

    - Hitsugaya probably would have lost to Zommari

    - Ichigo did lose badly to an unreleased Ulqui, but his battle is different than Hitsu's battle with Halibel. Halibel probably could murder Hitsu in close range combat, but their fighting a long range battle. Also Hitsu can defend against her attacks because he can turn her water into his ice.

    - Hitsu hasn't visually damage Halibel.

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post
    Hitsu, easily. Their bankais are similar, but when it comes to reasonable (I'm not including aizen's fight because aizen is way out of either of them's league) opponents:

    * Hitsu nearly lost to shawlong, but that was under the limit. Once the limit was lifted it was an instant kill
    * hitsu took out the 6th espada on one hit. Would've killed him if the negacion hadn't saved him. Granted, he did have time to prepare the attack but still...
    * has performed better so far against the 3rd espada than byakuya did against the 7th

    Byakuya
    * lost to a newbie with bankai who got murdered by the 4th espada while in bankai and with good mastery of his hollow form
    * lost an arm and a leg (temporarily) to the 7th espada

    I think the winner is clear.
    I completely disagree on that. Byakuya didn't "win" against zomari, he owned him so bad that it can barely be considered a fight. Byakuya merely used the simplest form of his bankai to fight while hitsugaya was forced to use a technique which he claims he cannot control. of course there is a clear power difference between zomari and harribel which makes comparing both fights some murky business....

    Also, hitsugaya won't have an elemental advantage against byakuya which in comparison was key to his fight with harribel. Byakuya did have a convenient bankai but its not like he needed it after he realized zomari's ability was similar to kido. I think byakuya has better kido, and speed than hitsugaya and he can use his bankai to block even the little pieces of heaven hitsugaya can so conviniently throw at him.


    Quote Originally Posted by ki0 View Post
    - Hitsu may have taken out Luppi in one hit, but Luppi didn't decide to finish him when had the advantage.

    - Hitsugaya probably would have lost to Zommari

    - Ichigo did lose badly to an unreleased Ulqui, but his battle is different than Hitsu's battle with Halibel. Halibel probably could murder Hitsu in close range combat, but their fighting a long range battle. Also Hitsu can defend against her attacks because he can turn her water into his ice.

    - Hitsu hasn't visually damage Halibel.
    -There is no guarantee luppi could have killed hitsugaya had he continued his attack.
    -Hitsugaya could have used water in a similar way byakuya used his bankai
    Last edited by kkck; June 19, 2009 at 04:30 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    @Darth Executor:

    Byakuya lost one of his limbs protecting Rukia and the other because it was the first time Zommari used his ability(it would have been hard to protect yourself against something like that, especially if it was the first time, can't protect yourself from something you don't know about).

    And then proceeded to destroy the seventh Espada. Yeah...that would go under pretty good...
    Last edited by Onomatopoeia; June 19, 2009 at 04:59 PM.

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    Byakuya without a doubt. Better Kido, better speed, his bankai is strong against long-ranged fighters such as hitsugaya.
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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Toshiro Hitsugaya

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post
    Hitsu, easily. Their bankais are similar, but when it comes to reasonable (I'm not including aizen's fight because aizen is way out of either of them's league) opponents:

    * Hitsu nearly lost to shawlong, but that was under the limit. Once the limit was lifted it was an instant kill
    * hitsu took out the 6th espada on one hit. Would've killed him if the negacion hadn't saved him. Granted, he did have time to prepare the attack but still...
    * has performed better so far against the 3rd espada than byakuya did against the 7th

    Byakuya
    * lost to a newbie with bankai who got murdered by the 4th espada while in bankai and with good mastery of his hollow form
    * lost an arm and a leg (temporarily) to the 7th espada

    I think the winner is clear.
    you are ignoring many aspects of each of those battles.

    Luppi vs Hitsu

    first Hitsu didn't simply take out luppi in one shot. he got beaten down
    himself! and didn't appear for a significant amount of time.
    if the difference between Hitsu and luppi are as large as you suggest then
    he wouldn't have taken risks with the lives of his team mates.
    Rangiku was seconds away before being punctured with needles!
    the fact that Hitsu had to rely on such an elaborate technique to
    deal with Luppi shows that it wasn't easy. far from it.

    Then lets see Byakuya's side.

    Byakuya vs Ichigo
    The moment Byakuya used the true form of senbonzakura, i.e senkei
    senbonzakura kageyoshi, Ichi started losing rapidly. this happened
    the moment byakuya used it. and very quickly Ichigo became slower
    than Byakuya eventhough senkei gives no speed increase!
    so Byakuya was winning at full strength but shirosaki had to intervene.
    and eventhen the man took 2 GT's and a sword strike from shirosaki
    and still survived!

    Byakuya vs Zommari
    Zommari's abilities and Harribel's abilities are very different.
    you can't fight both the same way. however the fact that zommari's
    kido ability worked on Byakuya shows that there wasn;t a significant
    difference in reiatsu between the two...

    Hitsu vs Harribel
    Hitsu was being crushed in his bankai by a sealed Harribel!
    Hitsu won that fight because he had the better elemental control.
    simple. that said she might still be alive...

    however this is quite tought to chose from. eventhough Hitsu
    had a poor performance in the past, you still can't ignore the
    pwning against 3rd espada. which makes me feel they are roughly in
    the same captain tier. but I'm going to go with Byakuya since
    he's shown excellent kido abilities while we have seen very little from
    Hitsugaya.

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    Kuchiki Byakuya vs Hitsugaya Toushiro

    Previously I wouldnt have even considered this a contest-I would have imagined Byakuya would reduce Hitsugaya to dust( and I LIKE Hitsugaya).

    But fair is fair and since the last few chapters with Hitsugaya in them and him using some new Techniques (Guncho Tsurara and Tenso Jurrin/Hyoten Hyokaso-the last one being admitedly very badass) its become more difficult to call in my oppinion. There is no doubt that without Hierro if Byakuya is caught in Hyoten Hyokaso or Sennen Hyoru hes dead. Theres also no doubt that Hitsugaya could probably freeze Senbonsakura's first form in Bankai but I cant see how he'll avoid getting scewered by Senkei. Also Byakuya seems much faster and more adept at using kidou, but Hitsugaya CAN fly and reforge his bankai..sooo ive put it to a poll.

    Regardless my vote goes to Byakuya- I think his overall supperior mastery of shinigami combat and his own bankai will give him the win here. However it will be much closer now that Hitsugaya showed us that Hax finishing move he has. That makes me think that in 100 years he'll be out of Byakuya's league unless Byakuya improves.
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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Hitsugaya Toushiro

    I think Hitsugaya would put up a good fight, but lose. He probably couldn't freeze Byakuya's petals. It seems like there's only three ways he can freeze things:

    1. Make contact with the sword.
    2. Wait for there to be lots of moisture in the air
    3. Use his ultimate move

    At the beginning of the battle there wouldn't be that much moisture in the air so Hitsugaya wouldn't be able to freeze his petals. Byakuya would probably have the advantage at the beginning.

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    Re: Kuchiki Byakuya vs Hitsugaya Toushiro

    Quote Originally Posted by ki0 View Post
    I think Hitsugaya would put up a good fight, but lose. He probably couldn't freeze Byakuya's petals. It seems like there's only three ways he can freeze things:

    1. Make contact with the sword.
    2. Wait for there to be lots of moisture in the air
    3. Use his ultimate move

    At the beginning of the battle there wouldn't be that much moisture in the air so Hitsugaya wouldn't be able to freeze his petals. Byakuya would probably have the advantage at the beginning.
    hitsugaya did tell harribel he did not need to wait for the atmosphere to be filled with moisture though, he can just use his zampakuto at any time to create it.

    I would think byakuya gets this one. Even if hitsugaya uses the technique he used against harribel, byakuya can just use a relatively small number of his bankai blades to shield himself. byakuya for the win.

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