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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by SusanooSeaGod View Post
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    Were you seriously planning on posting the whole thing in this thread?!
    I posted a link on the first post so that we can avoid having this big text here.

    Though, if you want to contribute, give us your impression on the theory

    Think the theory make sense?!


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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHomeMade Nindo View Post
    Were you seriously planning on posting the whole thing in this thread?!
    I posted a link on the first post so that we can avoid having this big text here.

    Though, if you want to contribute, give us your impression on the theory

    Think the theory make sense?!
    sorry and yeah it makes sense

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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    The theory would make a lot more sense if half of it wasn't false and made up by someone.

    Obito has also slipped through the boulders before he awakened his MS. No surprise here at all, just Kishi doing a headstand while taking a shit, which is pretty much the development cycle in a nutshell of his recent work - IChallengeYou!

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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Well dunno if anyone mentioned this before BUT i think Kishi made madara having Tengu king in his mind... Just 2 points

    1st. Teleportation
    2nd. Uchiwa Fan

    and thats possibly the reason we have such theories, tbh i don't think that these theories apply even though its fun reading them and working them out but in the opposite i think that we can quite predict madara's, sasuke's and the rest of the uchiha's future using the king of tengu mythology

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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    The theory also said something that the hyuuga existed earlier than the uchiha and that the hyuuga clan has been in konoha since the establishment. This is proven to be wrong in the manga because konoha's founder was the uchiha clan together with the senju clan.

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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by suryoyomobb View Post
    The theory also said something that the hyuuga existed earlier than the uchiha and that the hyuuga clan has been in konoha since the establishment. This is proven to be wrong in the manga because konoha's founder was the uchiha clan together with the senju clan.
    naruto is bassed on that japanese metholegy, kishi changed some things. i agree that the tengu king may exest and agree that he doesnt exest because kishimato changed and didnt put everything in his stroy. he didnt metion anything about the first hyuuga. the tengu king may come in the future but there is a high chance that he wont be the same as he is in the japanese methology. in other words, he could be sealed, or free, or dead. this japanese metholegy isnt a fake spoiler or fanfiction wretten by a fan of naruto at all. kishi might take other thing from it but change it to his own well.

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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by suryoyomobb View Post
    The theory also said something that the hyuuga existed earlier than the uchiha and that the hyuuga clan has been in konoha since the establishment. This is proven to be wrong in the manga because konoha's founder was the uchiha clan together with the senju clan.
    Yeah, but the Hyugga clan was still there before the Uchiha.
    If you remember, Kakashi said that the Sharingan came from the Byakugan.

    That means that the Hyugga clan somehow (coupling with the Tengu king?!) created the Sharingan.


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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHomeMade Nindo View Post
    Yeah, but the Hyugga clan was still there before the Uchiha.
    If you remember, Kakashi said that the Sharingan came from the Byakugan.

    That means that the Hyugga clan somehow (coupling with the Tengu king?!) created the Sharingan.

    Alright, it has been stated in the manga that the Uchiha are said to be descendants of the Hyuuga, with the Byakugan changing into the Sharingan over time.

    Over time usually indicates several generations, not just "Oh, hi. My kid was born with Sharingan." But just because it's been said that they came from the Hyuuga, it doesn't make it true. It's also been said that Kakashi cut a bolt of lightning with his Raikiri. Does it sound realistic that a man could cut a bolt of energy that reaches nearly 60,000 degrees and can turn sand into glass, even ignoring the scientific facts, it'd probably result in the two sources of plasma melding together.

    I see it more likely that Kishimoto took the Soujoubou legend to design Madara, now that wildG mentioned it.

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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yakedo-Tenchou View Post
    Alright, it has been stated in the manga that the Uchiha are said to be descendants of the Hyuuga, with the Byakugan changing into the Sharingan over time.

    Over time usually indicates several generations, not just "Oh, hi. My kid was born with Sharingan." But just because it's been said that they came from the Hyuuga, it doesn't make it true. It's also been said that Kakashi cut a bolt of lightning with his Raikiri. Does it sound realistic that a man could cut a bolt of energy that reaches nearly 60,000 degrees and can turn sand into glass, even ignoring the scientific facts, it'd probably result in the two sources of plasma melding together.

    I see it more likely that Kishimoto took the Soujoubou legend to design Madara, now that wildG mentioned it.
    But when was the last time most occurences in Naruto were plausible? :/ You're talking if half the stuff we have seen is possible. Kakashi cutting a bolt of lightning is perfectly plausible in the Narutoverse.
    I don't know whether or not Sharingan originated from Byakugan but you need to remember that Senjuu and Uchiha were THE clans, that started Konoha. Hyuuga probably moved in at a later date. Given all the FACTS, it seems as if Uchiha were there before Hyuuga.

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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Parts of the theory are clearly really accurate. The biggest two issues, are this:

    1. Tengus being a race, and having sex with a hyuuga. Jesus christ, has this guy even read this manga?

    2. Three Uchihas to unlock a seal, Madara sealing his "father", any of that nonsense. All of it was clearly proven wrong when we heard about the Uchiha clan's early history.

    Obviously, if there is a Tengu involved, it is akin to a bijuu like the kyuubi. And it did not nail some Hyuuga chicks, but corrupted someone's eye with demonic powers. That of course explains the chakra more sinister and powerful than the kyuubi. Because it is derived from an even bigger, badder monster. It's probably that thing we see behind the Uchiha during the talks about gaining EMS, with four eyes. And of course, it's sealed in the moon. The only thing notable about Sasuke is that he will either serve as a vehicle for that monster, or for Madara himself to regain his powers. The actual "unsealing" consists of blowing up the moon with the power of all 9 bijuus (hey, if a guy can create it, someone else can destroy it, and all shonen are heavily inspired by dragonball).

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    I don't know whether or not Sharingan originated from Byakugan but you need to remember that Senjuu and Uchiha were THE clans, that started Konoha. Hyuuga probably moved in at a later date. Given all the FACTS, it seems as if Uchiha were there before Hyuuga.
    Facepalm. Obviously, all of the clans are older than the village. And the Hyuuga clan is much older than the Uchiha clan. It has nothing to do with the Leaf village. If anything, the huge effect the Uchiha and Senju had is evidence that those clans are fairly young, because they were too strong to exist in the old feudal clan system.

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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yakedo-Tenchou View Post
    Alright, it has been stated in the manga that the Uchiha are said to be descendants of the Hyuuga, with the Byakugan changing into the Sharingan over time.

    Over time usually indicates several generations, not just "Oh, hi. My kid was born with Sharingan." But just because it's been said that they came from the Hyuuga, it doesn't make it true. It's also been said that Kakashi cut a bolt of lightning with his Raikiri. Does it sound realistic that a man could cut a bolt of energy that reaches nearly 60,000 degrees and can turn sand into glass, even ignoring the scientific facts, it'd probably result in the two sources of plasma melding together.

    I see it more likely that Kishimoto took the Soujoubou legend to design Madara, now that wildG mentioned it.
    does anything in naruto sound realetic. but kakashi said that the shringun idea came from the byakugun or something like that.

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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by braindamage351 View Post
    Parts of the theory are clearly really accurate. The biggest two issues, are this:

    1. Tengus being a race, and having sex with a hyuuga. Jesus christ, has this guy even read this manga?

    2. Three Uchihas to unlock a seal, Madara sealing his "father", any of that nonsense. All of it was clearly proven wrong when we heard about the Uchiha clan's early history.

    Obviously, if there is a Tengu involved, it is akin to a bijuu like the kyuubi. And it did not nail some Hyuuga chicks, but corrupted someone's eye with demonic powers. That of course explains the chakra more sinister and powerful than the kyuubi. Because it is derived from an even bigger, badder monster. It's probably that thing we see behind the Uchiha during the talks about gaining EMS, with four eyes. And of course, it's sealed in the moon. The only thing notable about Sasuke is that he will either serve as a vehicle for that monster, or for Madara himself to regain his powers. The actual "unsealing" consists of blowing up the moon with the power of all 9 bijuus
    What 4-eyed monster?
    Could you put a link, or something?


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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHomeMade Nindo View Post
    What 4-eyed monster?
    Could you put a link, or something?
    this ugly dude
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/386/09/

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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by adel123456789 View Post
    Nice!!
    Totally forgot about that one.

    And he also appear here : http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/386/13/

    Considering that Kishi usually put hints in stuff like that, I wouldn't be too surprised if this "ugly dude" was connected somehow to the Sharingan and the Uchiha.

    As for him being the Tengu king...
    That's a theory
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    Re: What if there was really a Tengu king?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHomeMade Nindo View Post
    Nice!!
    Totally forgot about that one.

    And he also appear here : http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/386/13/

    Considering that Kishi usually put hints in stuff like that, I wouldn't be too surprised if this "ugly dude" was connected somehow to the Sharingan and the Uchiha.

    As for him being the Tengu king...
    That's a theory
    if i remember right, kakashi once said demonic blood line when they fought haku. if he said it then the hyuuga, uchiha, fumma, haku's clan are desendents from a demon. and that "ugly dude" could be the shringun demon or the tenju king. kishi doesnt always stick to the japanese methology like with the biju designs, so this could be kishi's version of the tenjuu king. looks better then the old one.

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