Official Dragon Slayers Thread

[Darjaille]

mmm...I think why some think he's a DS is :

Someway he's connected to the Dragons..Zere was mentioned when Grandine n Igneel met !!

Zeref seem to know Natsu not heard about him...he met him be4 this is why he recognize Natsu face when he first saw him.

The Black dragon attacked Gildartz while doing the 100 year quest n caused him to fail it...might be the Zeref Dragons...so Zere is a Darkness dragon slayer

Zeref could be the boy who stare at the sea n also a FT member with the mark of FT on his shoulder just like Gajeel wendy n Natsu (all dragon slayers seems to have the mark there)

This is not what I think...just what others posted.

+ you can see sharp teeth on some pictures, just like wendy, gajeel and natsu sometimes have

[Uriel]

Well, I read everything on this thread. EPIC ideas has come from here. Although I still don't see Zeref as a DS.
If I'm not mistaken, Hades described something as the source of magic and was mention some times that every magic has the same source or the same origin at least. Maybe the strongest magic are closer to the core of magic.
I think Zeref is somewhat the closer to that core of magic.

Maybe Urtear is the one that made Hades young with her magic, and somewhat this girl is close to the core as well. I don't know, I think it's just too simple for her to be the daughter of Ur and nothing else. Anyway, that's only a branch of this riddle that don't necessarily fits DS directly.

And well, as I was saying...The core of magic is the place where Humans take their magic. And this is where DS are so important...Their magic comes from their Dragons, from a completely different place. Maybe the same core, but a completely different branch or even closer to it being part of nature.
I think this because what Cobra said, the reason why Zeref only believe in Natsu, the barrier...Almost everything points that Natsu and the rest of the Dragons are different from the other magic.

[ca12nag3]

The thing is there is never any mention of what Zeref is, only that he got to the source of magic. There is no law that states dragonslayers cannot do anything but roar and stomp like dragons :P.

Zeref has the link to Natsu knowing him. Also he has the fangs. Serious fangs. His magic is all named black black black. And then there is the Black dragon that Gildartz encounterd.

Giving all this its in the likelyhood that Zeref is the Black dragonslayer. However he is most likely much stronger and has more magical abilities then just being a slayer (if he is one).

Also this gets the entire Zeref + dragon disapearing storylines intwined. So its not in the lvl of impossibilities.

Well just have to wait and see ^^

[lordoffantasy]

The thing is there is never any mention of what Zeref is, only that he got to the source of magic. There is no law that states dragonslayers cannot do anything but roar and stomp like dragons :P.

Zeref has the link to Natsu knowing him. Also he has the fangs. Serious fangs. His magic is all named black black black. And then there is the Black dragon that Gildartz encounterd.

Giving all this its in the likelyhood that Zeref is the Black dragonslayer. However he is most likely much stronger and has more magical abilities then just being a slayer (if he is one).

Also this gets the entire Zeref + dragon disapearing storylines intwined. So its not in the lvl of impossibilities.

Well just have to wait and see ^^

i disagree. dragon slayers seem have secret powers, for there is definitely more to a dragon than raw power. i mean, didn't one do a force ghost type to talk to igneel?
no, zeref is not a dragon slayer. he does not EAT anything i can see. how he has existed is simply that he is fairy tail's voldemort. going os deeply into twisted magic he can't even age. never expected him to be a frail looking dude like that. was expecting a big evil old wizard or somethin. hell, i think he must have literally been possessed by whatever he found. he sounds horrified by the thought of awakening again.

[Ifrit]

i disagree. dragon slayers seem have secret powers, for there is definitely more to a dragon than raw power. i mean, didn't one do a force ghost type to talk to igneel?
no, zeref is not a dragon slayer. he does not EAT anything i can see. how he has existed is simply that he is fairy tail's voldemort. going os deeply into twisted magic he can't even age. never expected him to be a frail looking dude like that. was expecting a big evil old wizard or somethin. hell, i think he must have literally been possessed by whatever he found. he sounds horrified by the thought of awakening again.

+ the reasons above of why ppl think he's Dragon Slayer. Zeref being a Dragon slayer is not that hard to believe. We could be wrong but ...we didn't exactly seen Zeref fighting yet so we don't know if he's one or not. btw don't forget the "AGE " thing Zeref is very old like 400 + ...Natsu n Gajeel are expected to be 80 + also ...they both couldn't get out of Fried spell. So the idea of Zeref being a Dragon slayer is not unlikely. I didn't think of it be4 but after I read this thread linking events it actually might be true. But just like what " ca12nag3 " said we have to wait and see

[RaveDragon]

I think you're right

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/fairy...13/c101/9.html

what Grandine said here about wendy meeting Natsu and actually having a friendly relationship THIS TIME

so The DS meet and they were not on the same side...

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The current chapter discussion thread was getting a bit off topic on this subject, so thought continuing the discussion here would be better instead of going more astray of the topic elsewhere.

So, what exactly is Natsu and the other Dragon slayers...? Lets get some hypotheses and theories going (:

Facts we know of:
http://www.mangareader.net/135-7223-...apter-108.html
Natsu's ... ahem... age problem.... KA-BO--NK!!

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...0/c166/17.html
"Humans can't go against that thing, but perhaps a dragon can make it"

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...0/c166/18.html
"If Natsu, one day..."

http://www.mangareader.net/135-40441...apter-161.html
When using his powers to his so far best potential, a dragon appears and scares the the living hell out of whoever Natsu is fighting.

http://www.mangareader.net/135-7238-...apter-123.html
http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/258/20
The obvious, but fact anyway, there are many other Dragon Slayers around.
So far we know of 5 authentic Dragon Slayers, 6 if including Zeref assuming his also a dragon slayer. Laxus is not a pure Dragon Slayer, but one could say he's the 7th if you like.

Thoughts...? What do you think a Dragon Slayer truly is...? What are they cable of...? Your ideas!

[Schabrak]

Please check you links, second and third aren't working, will edit it to a real post afterwards.

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There you go, all links should be working now
Apparently the two links broke as I copied it from my earlier post, but just in case I took new links from another manga site, so link two and third should work as well now.

Cheers!

[ravaha]

I think they were all reborn into this world under certain circumstances. Zeref (stuck on Tenrou Island) The door could contain the true magical power of Natsu, Wendy and Gajeel. IT could also be a gateway to the dragons hiding place.

1. The prophecy is obviously all based on Natsu. Maybe he has to reach a certain point and he will regain his powers and memories?

A dragon slayer IMO is Natsu is his Dragon Force mode. They are supposed to have the power of a dragon.

Here is a theory i made from over a year ago and i think it still holds up.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...19/c160/3.html

Dragon force is supposed to be the power of a dragon and unstoppable AKA destroys everything. This is stated by Zero and his archive magic probably gave him that info.

Zero was completely owning Natsu, but that was because Natsu wasnt using the technique right until the end. But this also means that Zero is far stronger than Jella, who couldnt handle Natsu who wasnt using DF correctly at all.
I wonder if Makarov or Hades can take on that attack from Natsu?

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...20/c161/6.html

and the next few pages show Natsu using DF corectly to completely obliterate the strongest spell that has been shown in the manga. Thats debatable of course, but it is definitely top 3.

It doesnt matter what spell is used on DF Natsu because Dragon Force has the ability to destroy everything (including any spell thrown at him) and anyone.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...13/c101/9.html

Wendy's dragon states that Wendy and Natsu had a previous relationship that was not to fond of each other, and that maybe this time around they will have a good relationship. This would mean Natsu and Wendy were most likely reborn or something into new bodies just like Zeref. Same thing with Gazeel.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...3/c101/11.html

Also they speak of meeting at a dragon king feast which sounds prety cool.

So if you compile all this information. Their is no doubt whatsoever that Natsu, Wendy, Zeref, Gazeel, and other DS were reborn into this world after some big incident.

I mean Gazeel and Natsu cant go through a barrier because they are over the age of 80( according tot he barrier). Zeref knows Natsu, and knows Natsu is the only mage that can destroy him. And Wendy's dragon states that Natsu and Wendy had a previous relationship and that they are going to meet again and hopefully their relationship goes better this time around.

I dont know if this info has been put together already or not before on these forums, but it does leave little doubt that The spell that is keeping Zeref in his dormant state is also keeping Natsu,Gazille, and Wendy in their dormant states.

My theory is that Natsu, Gazille, and Wendy will all get their powers unlocked when Zeref has his powers unlocked. Although it is wierd that Zeref is the only one of them that can remember the past. Maybe they did that so when he grows up he will know who he does not want to become? I expect that they will get 3xor more strength onces their powers are unsealed? It took 3 of them to kill a fake dragon, and even then they were out of magic power.

Maybe Natsu was able to draw on this power after he ate Etherion and the Flame of Rebuke? Maybe those 2 substances were able to temporally unseal Natsu's powers and allow him to use his Dragon Force? I also do not think that they will recover their previous personalities because they were sort of reborn. I think Zeref will remain the same, except his powers will be through the roof.

It does seem that if you review all of the information that Author has provided and hinted to, that Mashima is not pulling wins out of nowhere for Natsu, he has planned all along for Natsu to be the strongest mage in the manga. And According to Zeref Natsu might have already previously been the strongest mage in the world. Zeref is only referred to as the strongest evil mage in the manga, not the strongest mage. There is a big difference. I wonder who the strongest good mage was?
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EDIT: JUST FOUND THIS IMPORTANT DETAIL:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...19/c160/3.html

Doesnt it seam weird that earlier i said their powers would triple,when their powers are unsealed, and after Natsu ate the flame of rebuke he feels like his powers have tripled. I mean it took exactly 3 dragon slayers to kill the FAKE dragon in edolas, which i would think means they have at least 1/3 their power sealed away. It was also strange that Natsu had significantly less magical power than the fake dragon slayers and had to rely on secret techniques that he was taught by igneel to defeat the fake DS.
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I think It is going to be awesome if Mashima follows my theory ... I was right about my Kuma/Revolutionary/Garp theory and it turned out to be 100% accurate........

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http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy_...6/c046/12.html
It seems That Ur didnt use half her power when she fought Natsu the first time and that Gerrard had some plans for him that did not include him fighting him in the tower of heaven.. Which means Gerrard knows there is something special about Natsu that also has yet to be revealed

[crimsonlink310]

I think that there are some other Dragon Slayers yet to be reveled to the world. A Water Dragon Slayer and one more Dragon Slayer of a certain element. I'm guessing Earth. I'm 90% sure that a Water Dragon Slayer will be introduced later on in the series. I dunno about the last one though, it might just be 4 Dragon Slayers.

I do like your theory and I agree with most of it. Natsu not getting through the barrier is something to be alarmed about. Also I wonder if the new Dragon Slayers introduced are natural or lacrima grown Dragon Slayers.

[MONKEYS]

I think you're right

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/fairy...13/c101/9.html

what Grandine said here about wendy meeting Natsu and actually having a friendly relationship THIS TIME

so The DS meet and they were not on the same side...

Actually, I think she was just referring to Gajeel.

The thing that has me the most confused is the fact that dragon slayers seem to be really old. Given that they were unable to escape from Fried's spell:
http://www.mangareader.net/135-7223-...apter-108.html
I'm pretty sure he's not a statue (I don't get how that would even work), so he must be (chronologically) over 80.

My theory is that he, and the other dragon slayers, went into hibernation a long time ago (last airbender style ). I assume this was before Zeref fell from his evil dominance in the war (since Zeref knows Natsu by name).
All in all I'm getting a Resha Valentine/Elie (see Rave Master, Hiro Mashima's other manga) vibe from the DS's situation.

As to why they believe they were abandoned in the year 777, well, that's just because they were all programmed to wake up then (they were probably enchanted to awaken when a new threat arose).

Anyway, hopefully the double DS's of Sabretooth will be able to shed some light on the mystery once they get thoroughly beaten in this arc.

[dragons4life]

I think with the whole "Natsu and Gajeel not being able to go out of Freid's barrier" thing is that Natsu got his fire dragon power from Igneel and that fire dragon power is (I think) Igneel's lifeforce and Igneel is probably hundreds years old and since Natsu got Igneel's power/lifeforce. Natsu is maybe 17/18 years old but his magic is hundreds years old, because of Igneel.

Just a theory

[kkck]

If I recall, the rule was "people over 80 and statues cannot pass". At least if we take things literally then the lifeforce reason would not quite make sense as natsu would not be over 80 himself and the lifeforce would not technically be neither people nor a statue. Zeref seems to be personally acquainted with natsu though, it should be a strong indication that natsu was around 400 years ago.

[Ifrit]

it should be a strong indication that natsu was around 400 years ago.

I agree with you on this one. I like the idea of them not going out because of the magic they use, but I think kkck theory is more closer to the truth for more than just Natsu n Zeref. Grandine also said to Igneel that she hope Wendy n Natsu meet and better bonding will happen this time.

http://www.mangareader.net/135-7216-...apter-101.html

This could mean that Natsu, Wendy, and Gajeel perhaps lived in another time where they weren't exactly fond of each other.

To be more clear. When Natsu first heard Wendy name he told Gray that he heard about that name, but he can't remember where.

http://www.mangareader.net/135-7248-...apter-133.html