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    Fraudster gets 150 year sentance

    source from the bbc


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    Fraudster Madoff gets 150 years
    Court sketch of Madoff and Judge Denny Chin
    Madoff is the biggest self-confessed fraudster in US history

    Bernard Madoff has been given the maximum prison sentence of 150 years for masterminding a massive fraud that robbed investors of $65bn (£40bn).

    The sentence, which means Madoff will spend the rest of his life in jail, was greeted with cheers and applause in the packed courtroom.

    US District Judge Denny Chin said he wanted to send a message that Madoff's crimes were "extraordinarily evil".

    Madoff's lawyer had sought a more lenient sentence of 12 years.

    Judge Chin gave Madoff the maximum sentence on all 11 charges, which included securities fraud and money laundering.


    FROM THE COURT
    Laura Trevelyan
    Laura Trevelyan, BBC correspondent, New York

    Victims cheered from the court as the judge sentenced Bernie Madoff to 150 years in jail.

    Wearing a black tie and a dark suit, Madoff stood impassively as he heard his fate.

    Earlier he had listened to his victims tell the court he was "a monster who should be caged".

    Investor Miriam Siegman's voice wavered as she admitted that she scavenged in rubbish trucks now her money is gone.

    Madoff said he couldn't offer an excuse. Turning to his victims he said "I'm sorry I know that doesn't help".
    In quotes: Madoff sentenced
    Suicide prompted by Madoff scandal
    Madoff victims lose life savings

    "Here the message must be sent that Mr Madoff's crimes were extraordinarily evil and that this kind of manipulation of the system is not just a bloodless crime that takes place on paper, but one instead that takes a staggering toll," Judge Chin said.

    He said "the breach of trust was massive" and pointed out that no friends, family or other supporters had submitted any letters on Mr Madoff's behalf.

    Madoff has 10 days to decide whether to appeal.

    His wife Ruth said in a statement released after the hearing that she felt "betrayed and confused".

    "The man who committed this horrible fraud is not the man whom I have known for all these years," she said.

    'Legacy of shame'

    Before the sentencing, Madoff apologised for the "legacy of shame" he had brought on his family and the industry.

    "I'm responsible for a great deal of suffering and pain, I understand that," said Madoff, who will spend the rest of his life in prison.

    Judith Welling and husband DeWitt Baker: 'We're too old to go back to work'

    He turned directly to those in court who had been affected and said he was sorry.

    A number of them had earlier given emotional statements. One had broken down in tears during their testimony.

    "Life has been a living hell. It feels like the nightmare we can't wake from," said Carla Hirshhorn.

    "May your jail cell be your coffin," Michael Schwartz told Madoff.

    The BBC's North America Business Correspondent Michelle Fleury said the length of the sentence was unexpected.

    Victims would be pleased, she said, but this wasn't the end for them as they are still trying to recover some of their money.

    "I think it was certainly a justified sentence," said Judith Welling, who lost $2.5m along with her husband.

    "He's trying to send a message to the world that this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated," she added.

    Thousands defrauded

    Bernard Madoff admitted defrauding thousands of investors in a Ponzi scheme which he said had been running since the early 1990s.

    Madoff started his financial career aged 22 with $5,000 from money made from summer holiday jobs such as working as a garden sprinkler installer in New York.

    He then set up Bernard L Madoff Investment Securities in 1960.

    His firm became one of the largest market-makers - matching buyers and sellers of stocks - and Madoff served as chairman of the Nasdaq stock exchange.

    Madoff's firm was investigated eight times by the US Securities and Exchange Commission over the past 16 years, because it made exceptional returns.


    WHAT IS A PONZI SCHEME?
    A fraudulent investment scheme paying investors from money paid in by other investors rather than real profits
    Named after Charles Ponzi who notoriously used the technique in the United States in the 1920s
    Differs from pyramid selling in that individuals all tend to invest with the same person

    But it was the global recession which effectively prompted Madoff's demise as investors, hit by the downturn, tried to withdraw about $7bn from his funds and he could not find the money to cover it.

    The list of Madoff's victims includes film director Steven Spielberg's charitable foundation, Wunderkinder.

    UK banks were also among the victims with HSBC Holdings saying it had exposure of around $1bn. Other corporate victims were Royal Bank of Scotland and Man Group and Japan's Nomura Holdings.

    But it is not just the elite and large firms who were victims of the fraud.

    School teachers, farmers, mechanics and many others have also lost money.

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    Re: Fraudster gets 150 year sentance

    150 years in jail?This guy aint going to last a year in prison,so why not just do it the way it was done in the old days,let the victims throw rocks at this guy,hes still gonna day in a few years,way better then 150 years in prison,I think every victim would agree on something like this.

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    Re: Fraudster gets 150 year sentance

    It's the largest Ponzi Scheme in history of course he's going to get a long time in jail. No way is his jail time going down to 12 years. People get put in for 10 years for defruading investors out of a couple billion.

    Though the sentence will probably be shortened a good bit, unless he decides to go with it(he should). Not that it matter the guy's 71 he'll die in jail no matter what(don't feel sorry for him, were talking about many thousands of investors having money stolen from them).

    I think what's more important though is dealing with losses of that sort of money. 60 billion is way more then we can ever hope to get back. Heck they've been trying to get the money back for a while and all they've currently got back is 1 billion. No way insurance can deal with the rest.
    Last edited by Onomatopoeia; June 29, 2009 at 06:06 PM.

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    Re: Fraudster gets 150 year sentance

    But like it just shows how the goverment who makes law, favours money over lives.

    A guy can kill another man, and get Life but can get out in 14 years, while a fraudster gets the biggest sentence for a large amount of money

    Justice is wierd these days

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    Re: Fraudster gets 150 year sentance

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ren Boy- View Post
    But like it just shows how the goverment who makes law, favours money over lives.

    A guy can kill another man, and get Life but can get out in 14 years, while a fraudster gets the biggest sentence for a large amount of money

    Justice is wierd these days
    Examples? I'm pretty sure the justice system is harsh to murderers in most cases though, there are exceptions of course like you said. Though at the end of the day it really depends on who the judge is and the type of murder.

    The justice system is far from perfect. Doesn't change the fact that this is a terrible crime.

    Also here's the list of all the lives(and companies, which probably include more people not on the list) Madoff screwed over. It's 163 pages long. Talk about no morals.

    And there have been suicides directly related to what Bernie Madoff did. This guy deserves to rot. The worst part is? We have no clue where he put a good 50 billion dollars.
    Last edited by Onomatopoeia; June 30, 2009 at 05:39 PM.

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