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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
The only viable explanation would be that Crocus has no bounty, that the WG does not know he was a Gol D. Roger's pirate : after all, they did not know for Buggy.
Then, knowing who Crocus really is, I would definitely send him to LVL 6 : he is the one that allowed the PK to survive (and to walk, to fight etc ...) enough time to conquer the Grand Line.
It is not for nothing that among all the PK's nakamas, one of the four that Oda has decided to show us is Crocus : it is because of the central place he had in the crew. Do not forget that it is because he had to leave the crew, that the crew disbanded.
Now, I do think the reason for which each individual gets send to w/e level is important. Not stating such as detail could lead to misinterpretations of what someone is saying. For what we know, you can get sent to each level for two reasons:
- According to your strength. Only thing which matters when for levels 1-5 considering that if you get sent into a level and you are not strong enough for it, you die. It can also get you into level 6.
-Threat level you pose for whatever reason other than strength. This can get you past level 1-5 straight into level 6 in spite of how strong you are. For instance, robin would not last a day in levels 3-5 yet because of her knowledge she might end up in level 6 where she would indeed survive for quite some time.
Now, we do not know how strong most level 6 prisoners are but IMHO they should be stronger than luffy of lucci and closer to the strength of jimbei and crocodile. Given what crocodile said and what little we have seen, level 6 prisoners are not people who failed to conquer the first half of the grandline. They are criminals who were second to whitebeard.
Luffy is strong, but I doubt he is level 6 strong. His feats could earn him level 6 at this point though.
Also, iva only hit a few of the level 6 prisoners. Whether they were knocked out or he could have won a fight on normal circumstances is highly debatable. Hitting a bunch of starved chained prisoners is not much of a feat, even ussop could pull that off.
As for the bolded part, yes I did admit that, I wrote it in my post.
I simply think the reason for being sent to level 6 is important. For instance, lets take robin and an hypothetical unknown uber pirate A. Robin by no means has the strength of a traditional level 6 prisoner yet her knowledge might send her there. Now for pirate A; the guy could be completely unknown yet if he is arrested and levels 1-5 cannot contain him, he will be sent to level 6.Quote:
Now, even if luffy has the feats to earn him level 6, I really don't think he has the strength of a level 6 prisoner. That's all I am saying.
Being in Level 6 is more about posessing knowledge or being a direct threat to the world government. so with that said Robin would be in Level 6 because she can read poneglyphs.
If Luffy were to be captured right now, he would be in Level 6 that much I'm pretty sure about...
And how do you know the prisoners could not take death wink? All we saw was that they got hit, nothing else. We also do not know the mechanics behind death wink. If it has something to do with haki(big if), then it would be quite a fearsome attack and it would not be surprising if it actually knocks out level 6 starved prisoners in one hit.
I guess this is kinda subjective but I don't think luffy at this point is strong enough as level 6 prisoners. The opponents who IMO were level 6 material were enel, against whom luffy had an unique advantage and could not be hurt by enels strongest attacks, crocodile against whom luffy got kinda lucky IMHO and moria who luffy never fought head on except for while(and got his ass handed to him). The ones at SA were also level 6 worthy but as we all saw they easily kicked the strawhats asses. As for lucci, I think he is at best level 5 worthy but by no means level 6.
Level 6 prisoners are as called by crocodile silver medallists. They were people who got defeated by people such as WB. Luffy at the moment is a supernova. A supernova is a pirate who has conquered the first half of the grand line and got a rookie status. How can a rookie even begin to compare to a silver medallist? Luffy is strong and has been incredibly lucky but IMHO he is just strong enough to be sent to level 5(while his feats would send him straight to level 6).
I think that any Yonkou or stronger or Dragon should be sentenced too the death penalty by the WG because they would show off their streng.
Also luffy isn't strong enough too go to lvl 6 and has yet too discover alot but in a fight their isn't only the muscles that count also your brains and in a fight he used water against croc. and invented gear 2 3 against Lucci
The silver medalist are people who lost in the name of the marine and stuff but they all are of a high lvl and could easily beat the guys like Das Bones and Dino
The treaths that the prisoners of lvl 6 reprensent are that great that they are locked up in the depth of IP and by def have a nice little bounty or atleast knowed by the marine too be highly searched even with a low bounty.All rookies should be locked up in Lvl 5 and Wapol also because in Lvl 5 their isn't much too eat and in LVL 2 their are the animals who should taste pretty good
enel # 4? gotta be kidding me he took out zoro & sanji &moves at lightning fast speed luffy only won because of his rubber and he still almost lost
Last edited by virbens; July 08, 2009 at 01:14 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
For future reference, when making a point, don't just write one big ass sentense. It's a pain to read and understand. I don't mean any offense but your post is really hard to read.Quote:
Luffy was dead tired when he defeated moria, that is true. Thing is that when he fought moria, he did not fight the normal smart moria he fought earlier. Moria absorbed the shadows of a thousand people and acquire a stupid amount of power but he also went on a wild unintelligent rampage. Not to mention absorbing that many shadows was actually hurting moria.
The first time luffy fought moria, the guy did not do a thing. He just sat there while his shadow did all the work. In that situation the one on the losing end was obviously luffy. Luffy got quite a few hits while he only landed one lucky hit on moria although that one kick did little to now damage. Considering how superior moria proved to be at that moment and the fact that moria was basically just sitting there without moving. IMHO if moria gets completely serious in a 1 on 1 fight, he would actually be quite strong and extremely hard to deal with. It's all my own speculation but I do believe that there is a reason moria is a shichibukai and he did not show it back in TB.
I also do not think lucci is level 6 material. IMHO he would be sent to level 5. I know lucci was extremely strong and his strength was acknowledge by many high level people but that does not instantly mean he is as strong as a level 6 prisoner. I honestly believe that if the thing was decided by strength alone, he would be sent to level 5.
Hawk and Law - both level 5 imo
I would say that the vast mayority of the supernova's would be sent to level 5. Capone does not strike me as a extremely powerful dude so he might end up in level 4.
yea but it should still might get too 5 because if he is dropped in a hole with other prisoners he can take them in him soo lvl 5 where there are not much prisoners
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/540/16/). If they were Level 6 strength, they should have been able to stand up to it. From the picture, it looks like they were blasted backwards quite a bit.
Level 5: Kidd, Hawkins, X-Drake, Law
Level 4: The rest
All up for debate
When I judge what level a character should be in I place myself in the position of the World Government. I know I've probably done it by bounty (which isn't always a good indicator), but that's probably how the WG would have decided to do it. Besides, IMO Luffy, Kidd, Hawkins, Drake and Law are the strongest of the Supernovae also.
Last edited by Gecko Moria; July 09, 2009 at 03:11 AM. Reason: Typing error