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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
I was puzzling over it... and it seems like they'd both have unfair advantages. If Ken-chan got in a few strong hits, he'd probably be able to finish Szayel off. However if Szayel got him with his voodoo and the clone liquid... do you think Ken-chan could still fight minus a few organs? Who do you think would win?
Szayel, now you mention the whole organ thing. If it wasn't for that though, Kenpachi would SO beat Szayel's ass.
Yeah, obviously :/ On his own, with no tricks up his sleeve, I'd say Szayel is fairly weak. I don't think he'd be an Espada purely on physical strength and fighting skill alone. Having said that, if he managed to catch Kenpachi out... made a few clones, crushed some organs... then I dunno.
i dont think, he could ever get kenpachi into the flower to make a doll, most likely at the moment of being caught he would slice right trough it and get free in no time, also the clones cannot stand releasing a lot of reiatsu so the would explode as soon as kenpachi take off his patch
Kenpachi doesn't have bankai to nullify, so that's one ability down. Similarly, Kenpachi's not a woman, so he can't be reborn. ALl that's left is the organ voodoo doll, but I'm pretty sure Kenpachi could brute force his way out of it.
this is tough. if szayels abilities are kido in nature then I think kenpachi
would win, since he has such insane reiatsu.
but if not then szayel would win.
Yep, that's the age old reiatsu-difference argument in bleach.
Can a guy like Kenpachi overcome unique (basically underhanded is what I'm getting at) with just his sheer reiatsu?
-If Kira fought Kenpachi, would his doubling ability work?
-If Mayuri drew blood with his shikai on Kenpachi, or used the poison breath/gas on him, would it work?
-If Zommari casted Amor on Kenpachi's head, would it work?
Etc. etc., makes me wonder if his voodoo organ doll would work on Kenpachi.
Well, for grants organ doll ability to work, he has to catch kempachi and then create the doll. Kempachi's sheer power could be enough to to completely destroy any tentacle that tries to catch him IMHO. Once that is out, he can just go for the kill.
While I could see it happening, I feel that Kenpachi would be a goner in two of the three situations you listed. He might still be able to defeat Kira since multiplied sword weight only makes his attacks hurt more (the man kicked Tousen through a building, he can handle several times extra weight), and I doubt Kira could block even his regular-weight sword, not to mention one that's a few times heavier.
I'm serious when I say this:
Kenpachi would totally forget about Szayel after seeing all the clones of himself. He would then have all the clones 1on1 each other, leaving Szayel very frustrated and angry.
When Szayel tries to intervene, all the Kenpachis tear him to shreds, then continue fighting: Kenpachi wins!
Without clones, Kenpachi kendos Szayel before he releases, since he wants to 'end this boring fight, this guy isn't even using his sword, what's the fun in this?'.
Kenpachi would hack off Szayel's head before the latter could even react. Szayel talks way, way too much. Kenpachi isn't the type to listen to other people, and even though he might walk in a trap for the fun of it, he's not stupid enough to give Szayel enough time to crush his organs.
I keep thinking that Kenny would finish him quickly and tell him how weak he is. My only worry would be that he might let Szayel attack him first by saying he is giving him a head start or go very easy cuz he doesn't want the fight to end so quickly. Though like many others said if he were to get trapped he would probably be able to get out of it just using his spiritual pressure and freakish strength. Example: Against Tosen's cheapness bankai and that fight in that filler arc against the shinigami that trapper him in a light prison.