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    Kenpachi vs Szayel

    I was puzzling over it... and it seems like they'd both have unfair advantages. If Ken-chan got in a few strong hits, he'd probably be able to finish Szayel off. However if Szayel got him with his voodoo and the clone liquid... do you think Ken-chan could still fight minus a few organs? Who do you think would win?

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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel?

    Szayel, now you mention the whole organ thing. If it wasn't for that though, Kenpachi would SO beat Szayel's ass.

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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel?

    Yeah, obviously :/ On his own, with no tricks up his sleeve, I'd say Szayel is fairly weak. I don't think he'd be an Espada purely on physical strength and fighting skill alone. Having said that, if he managed to catch Kenpachi out... made a few clones, crushed some organs... then I dunno.

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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel?

    i dont think, he could ever get kenpachi into the flower to make a doll, most likely at the moment of being caught he would slice right trough it and get free in no time, also the clones cannot stand releasing a lot of reiatsu so the would explode as soon as kenpachi take off his patch

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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel?

    Kenpachi doesn't have bankai to nullify, so that's one ability down. Similarly, Kenpachi's not a woman, so he can't be reborn. ALl that's left is the organ voodoo doll, but I'm pretty sure Kenpachi could brute force his way out of it.
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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy01741 View Post
    Kenpachi doesn't have bankai to nullify, so that's one ability down. Similarly, Kenpachi's not a woman, so he can't be reborn. ALl that's left is the organ voodoo doll, but I'm pretty sure Kenpachi could brute force his way out of it.
    I don't think the host has to be female; Szayel implants a portion of himself inside and then tears his way out. But I agree with you overall.

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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel?

    this is tough. if szayels abilities are kido in nature then I think kenpachi
    would win, since he has such insane reiatsu.
    but if not then szayel would win.

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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel?

    Yep, that's the age old reiatsu-difference argument in bleach.

    Can a guy like Kenpachi overcome unique (basically underhanded is what I'm getting at) with just his sheer reiatsu?

    Examples:
    -If Kira fought Kenpachi, would his doubling ability work?

    -If Mayuri drew blood with his shikai on Kenpachi, or used the poison breath/gas on him, would it work?

    -If Zommari casted Amor on Kenpachi's head, would it work?


    Etc. etc., makes me wonder if his voodoo organ doll would work on Kenpachi.
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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel?

    Well, for grants organ doll ability to work, he has to catch kempachi and then create the doll. Kempachi's sheer power could be enough to to completely destroy any tentacle that tries to catch him IMHO. Once that is out, he can just go for the kill.

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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy01741 View Post
    Yep, that's the age old reiatsu-difference argument in bleach.

    Can a guy like Kenpachi overcome unique (basically underhanded is what I'm getting at) with just his sheer reiatsu?

    Examples:
    -If Kira fought Kenpachi, would his doubling ability work?

    -If Mayuri drew blood with his shikai on Kenpachi, or used the poison breath/gas on him, would it work?

    -If Zommari casted Amor on Kenpachi's head, would it work?


    Etc. etc., makes me wonder if his voodoo organ doll would work on Kenpachi.
    I could certainly see it happening, Kenpachi is in a pinch and breaks free just thanks to his massive reiatsu, just like in the Bount filler (not saying it was canon). The strong guys need a some sort of defense against all the cheap hax-like abilities thing is, are we ever going to see it happen?

    While I could see it happening, I feel that Kenpachi would be a goner in two of the three situations you listed. He might still be able to defeat Kira since multiplied sword weight only makes his attacks hurt more (the man kicked Tousen through a building, he can handle several times extra weight), and I doubt Kira could block even his regular-weight sword, not to mention one that's a few times heavier.
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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel

    I'm serious when I say this:
    Kenpachi would totally forget about Szayel after seeing all the clones of himself. He would then have all the clones 1on1 each other, leaving Szayel very frustrated and angry.

    When Szayel tries to intervene, all the Kenpachis tear him to shreds, then continue fighting: Kenpachi wins!

    Without clones, Kenpachi kendos Szayel before he releases, since he wants to 'end this boring fight, this guy isn't even using his sword, what's the fun in this?'.

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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel

    Kenpachi would hack off Szayel's head before the latter could even react. Szayel talks way, way too much. Kenpachi isn't the type to listen to other people, and even though he might walk in a trap for the fun of it, he's not stupid enough to give Szayel enough time to crush his organs.

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    Re: Kenpachi vs Szayel

    I keep thinking that Kenny would finish him quickly and tell him how weak he is. My only worry would be that he might let Szayel attack him first by saying he is giving him a head start or go very easy cuz he doesn't want the fight to end so quickly. Though like many others said if he were to get trapped he would probably be able to get out of it just using his spiritual pressure and freakish strength. Example: Against Tosen's cheapness bankai and that fight in that filler arc against the shinigami that trapper him in a light prison.

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