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    help with some pages please~

    lol looks like this is the first post here >.>
    well i was hoping some experienced cleaners could help me here.

    I'm attempting the impossible as many see it; I'm trying to clean some mahou sensei negima pages. Just as the reputation says, the raws are quite hard to deal with.

    here is a page i'm trying to clean...
    http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6976/26301.jpg

    i leveled it just a tad bit from the start then used topaz denoise and got this:
    http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2...terdenoise.png

    i then went through and redrew some distorted parts, burned some blacks, etc.
    http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/646...terburning.png

    as you can see, the image is still a bit noisy and looks a bit too gray (in my opinion at least) but that's about as how far as I can go.

    any suggestions on what to do? (or what I did wrong in the previous steps)
    currently reading 131 different series of manga
    probably it's more like 90-100
    gotta read a lot to read new manga every day

    qq they come and go so fast

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    Re: help with some pages please~

    Too sharp. It was too sharp that the grays didn't look like what they're supposed to look. What I would suggest; If you're going to use raws like that, it would be better to manually clean it instead of relying too much on topaz denoise.
    Last edited by Doragon; September 04, 2009 at 12:21 AM.
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    Re: help with some pages please~

    Quote Originally Posted by lululoo View Post
    any suggestions on what to do? (or what I did wrong in the previous steps)
    You did nothing "wrong", the procedure you used gives a result like this...
    It doesn't look that bad, but if you aren't satisfied then do like Doragon said and do not use denoising at all. Requires more time and effort, but a RAW like that and a speed scanlation just doesn't bring better results. If you did a speed scanlation here, i don't want to do you injustice...

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    Re: help with some pages please~

    Quote Originally Posted by lululoo View Post
    as you can see, the image is still a bit noisy and looks a bit too gray (in my opinion at least) but that's about as how far as I can go.
    I don't know what you mean by that, but I can tell you that the burning is pretty bad. You overburned most areas and some others need more burning, like the sfx on the first panel (the ku character, not the " which is overburnt too).

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    Re: help with some pages please~

    I'm only an ametuer myself, but I find that using a bit of brush works, with some transparency, too.
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    Re: help with some pages please~

    your final piece was fine for me. sure there's room to improve but to most readers i know every fine detail just doesn't matter, there's just not enough text on a page to stare for long and find every fault.
    your good quality.
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    Re: help with some pages please~

    Well, the second attempt is very good if you have been a cleaner since not so much time...
    I think you overburnt some SFX and so their lines are aliased...
    About the gray, if you usually don't redo the gray areas is good...

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    Re: help with some pages please~

    Hi There ^^

    I tried to fix it ^^ and here is the result ^^

    http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6...terburning.png

    I used a filter called Topaz Denoise

    and see this too =)

    http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6...1afterburn.png

    and choose what you like ^^

    btw your picture is so good so far you do not have to do anything else =)
    but if you want to =) maybe you want something with less noise ^^ and thats what I did for you ^^

    and If you need any help feel free to ask =)
    Last edited by мαgιησя; April 07, 2010 at 10:08 PM.

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    Re: help with some pages please~

    Quote Originally Posted by мαgιησя View Post
    Hi There ^^

    I tried to fix it ^^ and here is the result ^^

    http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6...terburning.png

    I used a filter called Topaz Denoise

    and see this too =)

    http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6...1afterburn.png

    and choose what you like ^^

    btw your picture is so good so far you do not have to do anything else =)
    but if you want to =) maybe you want something with less noise ^^ and thats what I did for you ^^

    and If you need any help feel free to ask =)
    the images and the texts are blur >.>
    Is the page MQ/HQ?

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