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    Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    Although hardly anything happened in this chapter, 18 is still one of the best chapters New Waves has had thus far. Shioon finally demonstrating his firmness; Elder Jeon being brainwashed converted to the Church of Shioon; shady business with a Doc who'll be showing up later in the story; etc.

    Most important about this chapter, however, is the maintaining of the masquerade. Hyuk So Chun and others spoke about the need to maintain the masquerade and hinted the potential chaos that would erupt if the actions of Goomoonryong and others were not halted. Previously in Gyu-Bum's conversation with Kangsung, it was revealed that the Alliance has lost a considerable amount of manpower and influence courtesy of Goomoonryong's rampage. That effect has led to numerous factions disregarding the need to keep their affairs private from the public and have fights in open areas and disregarding innocent bystanders getting caught in their gimmicks. One such faction is the S.U.C, and their actions have led to commoners speaking Goomoonryong's name. The masquerade is now one step closer to being shattered.

    I'm not sure where the author will take the story. I'm about 50/50 right now on where the author will take the story (maintain the masquerade or destroy it). I'm leaning towards the author preserving it since Shioon's job is to ultimately reform the Murim and act as a counter to Goomoonryong's destructive actions. Kind of hard to do these things since shattering the masquerade would hinder these upcoming plot developments.

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    Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    Quote Originally Posted by Franckie View Post
    I'm not sure where the author will take the story. I'm about 50/50 right now on where the author will take the story (maintain the masquerade or destroy it). I'm leaning towards the author preserving it since Shioon's job is to ultimately reform the Murim and act as a counter to Goomoonryong's destructive actions. Kind of hard to do these things since shattering the masquerade would hinder these upcoming plot developments.
    I've always assumed that sooner or later we'll have three factions:

    - The traditionalists/conservatists, who wants to keep the Murim as it is now (The Alliance, mostly, led by Kangsung).
    - The reformists, who'll want to keep the Murim but reform it. (led by Shioon and probably Hyuk So Chun)
    - The destroyers, who wants to see the Murim destroyed (The Black Forest Defense and those schools and goomooonryong-wannabes that have joined'em, led by the mysterious leader of the BFD and Goomooonryong).

    Mind you, if this is the way things'll be, then I'm guessing that sooner or later the Alliance will have to relent and accept the reforms that the reformists'll be pushing for, joining them, sorta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scav View Post
    btw the first tome of the breaker is out in france this week released by Bookenmanga edition. Maybe if this the sale are good, the breaker will be released in north america.
    I hope so. And I hope we get notice so that we can write the publisher or artist and author with our praise, and not bum them out by saying it was free or copied work. Could not believe how that last person upset the artist and may have caused a long time assistant to quit, delaying the series by three days and placing stress on training a new one.


    Quote Originally Posted by shakes12 View Post
    18 scanulation is out
    ‎18 scans is out
    http://www.mangahead.com/Manga-Engli...8-English-Scan
    Could someone who knows Korean look at NW 18 above where the word "tired" was chosen by the translator. On page 7, it is the middle panel, Second Bubble.
    On page 8, top panel, I tried translating both bubbles myself and it was a total failure.
    In the A-Team release, the numbers are one higher (8&9).
    Because they included and count the chapter cover. (credits page is 000a)

    The Korean source is here: http://cartoon.media.daum.net/webtoon/viewer/10382
    Turn to page six. I'm asking for a translation on the middle right panel & top left?

    Sorry I tried and all I got was the vaguest notion on the left side that, "Starting today, more than likely he will not dance with you. I know he has gambled, Now that eggs would not function properly."
    ~ What I got doesn't match either translator.
    Last edited by Otters11; February 23, 2011 at 01:01 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    The word you're probably talking about is 굴리다, I believe.

    "그저 네가 대결하는 걸 포기시키기 위해 무조건 굴리는 것에 불과하다고."

    He was simply abusing your body in order to get you to give up on the duel.

    "왜냐면 널 아무리 굴려도 통하지 않을 거라는 걸 알게 되었으니 말이야."

    Cause now he knows that no matter what he puts you through won't work anyways.

    굴리다 can mean a lot of things but in this case it probably means to abuse, treat carelessly, etc. So A-Team's translation does pretty much convey the message across - that Asian Lebron James is working Shiwoon over / taxing his body / treating his body recklessly. So the tired thing could work, and is probably better than trying to do an overly literal translation. And because the words "abusing your body" doesn't sound too nice, no matter how you put it.

    Other definitions of 굴리다 can include...
    1) roll;; 공을 굴리다, roll a ball
    2) invest;; 돈을 굴리다, invest money

    Also, 잔머리를 굴리다 can mean "to rattle one's brain" or something like that.

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    Arrow Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    Much appreciated, ChaoticKen. I enjoyed your funny summary.

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    Cause now he knows that no matter what he puts you through won't work anyways.
    Great explanation. So the suspicion of Shiwoon stamina dramatically increasing (not getting tired) might yet be true. It could still mean Shiwoon is a Block Head, but on the second day of Endless Training it went from morning past night fall (like a ~20-33% increase). Elder Jeon laughed when he tried to speak, the same way someone who is tired would, after giving their all in a race or workout.

    We fans are lucky to have skilled members like you in the community.


    Quote Originally Posted by benelori View Post
    ...walking medicine huh?

    I understand this in the following way...ki is energy...but one can only sense the ki flow of the opponent right? So the from the flow one can judge power, quantity etc...however in Shioon's case there's no flow I guess...he has just this big mass of ki, sort of static ki...do I make any sense?
    Someone tried in 12 steps to explain Shiwoon's Ki condition for New Waves.
    Also attempted to explain the difference between Ki Medicine & Ki Energy.
    http://www.ipitydafoo.com/forums/vie...=559&start=570
    Last edited by Otters11; February 21, 2011 at 11:26 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    I'm beginning to believe that Shiwoon won't need to focus his ki... eventually anyway.

    His general level of ki will be so high that it will be same as a regular person's concentrated ki. He will be able to do ki attacks like soul crushing strike with every blow and it will be like breathing to him.... eventually.

    The key to it all is raising his stamina, just like he has been doing this last 'week'. The idea behind using a ki-center is taking ki from a contentrated location and putting it where it is needed to use a ki skill. If you don't have enough ki at the right place you can't do the skill.

    Spoiler: pulling numbers out of my a$$ show

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksmith
    Oh, my point and argument I thought was pointless was the one where people were wondering whether the amount of Ki Shioon had at the time of his ki center being broken made a difference, that is utterly pointless. Figuring out of Shioon is laced with Ki or Ki medicine could play a huge part in the story later on though and I find that discussion quite interesting >.<
    It's actually a very important Clue. If you think it is "Quite Interesting"? Then I'll give it one more go, trying for clarity.
    Quote Originally Posted by dsraider
    Shioon not only received a huge ki reserve from the wonder drug but also started naturally producing huge amounts of ki, as shown here.(v03/c016/pg9)

    His broken ki center just prevents him from controlling that ki. It is still there as proven by his unnatural healing.
    Well said. I was stuck on how weak Shiwoon was many chapters ago. Much weaker than his normal punch against Changho in Part 1. So Why? New Waves ch1, He literally waited to be the last person to leave class in order to avoid bullies. Then later when Jinie came to school, classmates called him a bread truck/shuttle. His reputation should have risen a little, because of punching Changho?

    How did losing his Ki Center make him so weak? IMO, Because it was smashed when he barely had enough Ki to stand. So he stayed that weak with only a "trickle charge" from breathing getting through to replenish him. Being full of Ki Medicine, does not equal Ki Energy. You said it especially well. He is now producing his own Ki. The Ki medicine in his blood makes it possible, to do so without a Ki Center. But it is a trickle charge.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle_charging His body will only learn to charge as fast as he is able to Discharge Ki. I'm guessing, hitting empty in New Waves increases the maximum his body will recharge with. That's the reason the Endless Training worked!! Based on the two above moments and his Behavior against the Strong Sword School he did not have a lot of Ki, until the Endless Training. And that is the only Reason the Doc said he had a Lot of Ki. Otherwise his body strength would have been the same against Strong Sword School (or Elder Jeon) as it was with Changho and, at that time, his natural punching strength.
    Last edited by Otters11; February 23, 2011 at 01:04 PM. Reason: Removed large eyesore text ~ TY i had trouble font size

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    Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    this message was on the daum site
    독자 여러분에게 뭐라 드릴 말이 없습니다. 사정상 원고작업을 너무 늦게 들어갔습니다. 날짜를 조금이라도 뒤로 미뤄서라도 마감을 하려 했지만 그것 역시 쉽지가 않았습니다 ㅜㅜ 그래서 부득이하게 한 회 휴재하기로 했습니다.. 프로작가의 모습을 보여 드리지 못해서 정말 죄송합니다... 정말..다음 부터는 이런 일이 일어나지 않도록 노력하겠습니다 브레이커를 사랑해주시고 기다려주신 독자여러분 정말..죄송합니다.. trans please

    My Compass is on the Fritzz

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    Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    Long story short, no Breaker today.

    Started working on the manuscript too late.
    Apologizing for not being professional.
    Promising to ensure it won't happen again.

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    Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    Quote Originally Posted by ChaoticKen View Post
    Long story short, no Breaker today.

    Started working on the manuscript too late.
    Apologizing for not being professional.
    Promising to ensure it won't happen again.
    Thanks for telling us

    Darn it though. Oh well, can't be helped, I guess... Is it saying anything about when the chapter'll come then? Tomorrow? Later than that? Maybe not even this week...?

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    Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    Nope. No chapter this week. Consider it a week off, if one got weeks off for not being able to meet deadlines.

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    Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    I wish we could get a bit of forewarning when there isn't going to be a chapter. A few hours before it is supposed to be released hardly counts.

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    Re: The Breaker by Keuk-jin Jeon and Jin-Hwan Park

    they made a nice trailer for publicity of the breaker in france
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhb...er-ba_creation
    Last edited by scav; March 01, 2011 at 07:10 PM.
    <img src=http://mangahelpers.com/forum/signaturepics/sigpic136240_61.gif border=0 alt= />

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