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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Ones powers simply cant effect seastone, or be activated in close presence of it. It think the radius is about a foot or so. That would explain why Smoker has the juttes tip hanging so far from his body (on top of the thick clothes) and why Onigumu had the seastone cuffs on such long sticks.
Remember, just being in the Seastone cell sapped Luffys strength, he could barely move. Theres definitely a field.
Last edited by ANBU4U; January 29, 2010 at 01:52 PM.
Last edited by Black Lagoon; January 29, 2010 at 02:01 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I don't know why people underestimate him. Yes, he was beat by Luffy but what's the matter with it ? Crocodile also was and he is still a beast in One Piece as you can see in the MHQ arc. And people must not forget that unlike Crocodile, Enel could not hurt Luffy with his logia.
He was also in no better condition after his fight with Luffy than anyone else was (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/298/16-17/), I don't know where you're getting that. If he was so fine, why didn't he immediately attack Skypiea again as soon as Luffy left?
One of the snake sisters had a mantra-like ability also, but it didn't help her against gear 2nd. Even though she saw the attacks coming, she couldn't move fast enough to do anything about it. Enel can move fast, but his reaction time was nothing exceptional. He's concerned here that Luffy's strike is too fast: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/298/12-13/
The restarting his heart bit was amazing, but if he didn't have that he would have been finished by Wiper. Do you think a reject dial and seastone would be enough to take down Aokiji or Joz?
Last edited by RichardMNixon; January 29, 2010 at 05:27 PM.
^ Don't you understand what a natural enemy means? It's true that Enel is
a bitstupid (Just look at his dream ), but telling that we are overestimating Enel is like saying Zoro is a fodder (He was beaten by him).
His DF power is amazing, I think you're the one that's underestimating him.
If Enel was against Aokiji, Akainu, Kizaru... It would be a tie, there's no doubt.
I'm sorry but Enel is definitely a powerhouse on the same level as the admirals IMO
I disagree. I believe that Enel is strong, but the same level as the admirals no. The Admirals, i think, are even stronger than the shickibukai. It would be a good battle, but i think that any of the admirals can defeat Enel. This doesnt mean i dont believe he is strong.
Judging by the way you guys say that Enel is as strong as the admirals,
I just want to point out something.
Enel lost to luffy because of his rubber fruit, not because of luffy's strength.
However,the admirals we have on the blue sea are not afraid of the rubber fruit. If you guys say that enel is on the same level as the admirals, and he lost to luffy just becos of his fruit, then does it means that it's confirmed that ace will kick aokiji ass?
or that kizaru will defeat blackbeard?
Luffy was not just lucky that he was rubber, he was strong too and Enel was weak.
Face it, Enel is weaker than any of the admirals, he was the god just becos of his df.
Hell, aokiji can be the god of the blue seas becos he can fking freeze every single ocean.
Look, as long as admirals aren't the natural ennemies of Enel, the it would be always a TIE between Enel and one of them that's for sure, that's why I consider him at the same level as the admirals (Unless they have Haki, then it's another story if it's the case )
Quote:Yes, his DF is amazing, but we've also seen Marco, Aokiji, Joz, etc be remarkably strong without their already remarkable DF, and we've seen in this war that there's a lot more to fighting at the higher levels than just having a good DF. A rifle from Luffy sent Enel flying; Aokiji hardly noticed the same attack. He didn't logia disperse, he just took it in the gut like Morgan hitting Garp.Quote:
Enel is a glass cannon. A solid punch or two from Joz and Enel is out of the game.
Exactly!! If you are talking about elements, the admirals win. this is One Piece anything is possible. Enel COULD defeat them, but from what we know, and the amount of power we have seen, the admirals would defeat him.
Last edited by ANBU4U; January 29, 2010 at 10:53 PM.