Mamochi Zabuza vs Haruno Sakura (post-Timeskip)

[SuperSaiyaMan]

Who wins?

[Galbert-Kun]

IF Zabuza were still alive... Zabuza. That mist jutsu, his sword. More jutsus than Sakura. Their strength might be on par. Unless Sakura can use something other than her strength (maybe having some deadly poisons or sumtn), Zabuza would destroy her.

[kkck]

HHHmmmm zabusa would not even have to try for this one IMHO. Sakura would defeat zabusa with one punch but there is no way in hell she can match up to zabusa's assassination skills or experience. Extremely easy win for good old zabusa, specially after using his mist jutsu.

[3c]

Zabuza is far above Sakura in terms of combat skill. His mist jutsu alone would be enough to kill Sakura to be honest. She's a close range fighter, and doesn't have any special abilities to counter his mist jutsu. She'd get her head decapitated before she knew what hit her.

Zabuza is a true ninja, people shouldn't underestimate him. Without Kakashi's usage of his dog's smell he'd probably lose back in part 1.

[jdw]

He would just drown her in the water sphere. Game over. Sakura's level is too low for even the first major "villain."

[3c]

Imagine Kakashi telling that to Sakura

"Hey Sakura, it's kinda funny, despite all your improvements you still can't defeat the first villain you encountered! Naruto and Sasuke already surpassed me by far, but you're still way below what I was years ago."

Poor Sakura, she's gotten good, I admit she improved a lot in the time skip, from being very weak mentally and physically to a very skilled and talents medical ninja. But her skills are still to low.. She's a very good support ninja, that's my highest praise for her.

[jdw]

Honestly, it is a shame that Sakura has not advanced enough to beat Zabuza. He was cool and all but hardly a monster. At this rate, she probably cannot even beat a single demon twin. This is Kishi's fault. There is no excuse for her to be this low in her level anymore. Sakura is likeable when she has her swagger going. She can only have it going when she is fighting well.

[poobert]

Sakura is a medic. The only offensive skill she has is that her mediocre taijutsu is backed up by huge strength. She still uses no offensive ninjutsu for some reason, despite the fact that her skill is high enough for her to learn elemental manipulation easily. She doesn't even use medic skills offensively like Kabuto and Tsunade.

She would loose in a million and one ways. She could probably dodge a few attacks, even in the mist, but she has no long range moves, no medium range moves, no short range moves, only taijutsu (like an unskilled healing version of rock lee).

[Darth Executor]

Honestly, it is a shame that Sakura has not advanced enough to beat Zabuza. He was cool and all but hardly a monster. At this rate, she probably cannot even beat a single demon twin. This is Kishi's fault. There is no excuse for her to be this low in her level anymore. Sakura is likeable when she has her swagger going. She can only have it going when she is fighting well.

I think Kishi just has difficulty with developing female characters in general.

[jdw]

I think Kishi just has difficulty with developing female characters in general.

I kinda agree, but he has moments with Sakura where you can see he has it in him to make her special. The best moment is here. Recently, he could have shown her slapping down Karui (after avoiding Omoi's attack, keeping with her dodging specialty), and then crying about Sasuke after. Shinobi level up, teenage girl level down, everybody wins.

[kkck]

Honestly, it is a shame that Sakura has not advanced enough to beat Zabuza. He was cool and all but hardly a monster. At this rate, she probably cannot even beat a single demon twin. This is Kishi's fault. There is no excuse for her to be this low in her level anymore. Sakura is likeable when she has her swagger going. She can only have it going when she is fighting well.

What are you talking about lol? Zabusa was an elite ninja, among the very best the mist had to offer. May I remind you that in his first appearance he actually bested kakashi(kakashi got trapped in a water sphere and could not get out). He did get defeated twice after that but in both ocations it was only after considerable amount of trouble. To be completely honest I would not think zabuza is even that much more skilled than most akatsuki(with the exception of oro, kakusu and pein), what changes is mostly the fighting style. IMHO saying zabusa was HARDLY a monster is a massive understatement. Hell, the reason sakura does not stand a chance is not that she is overall weak or anything(I would think she is considerable above the average for someone her age) but simply because how much of a monster zabusa was. It's not like any of the other rookies(excluding naruto and sasuke) will have a chance against him.

[Darth Executor]

(with the exception of oro, kakusu and pein)

Huh? You think zabuza has a chance at kisame? Itachi? Deidara? Sasori? Only akatsuki he could conceivably beat are konan (she's a narutoverse chick and weak to water if it has the same effect oil has) and hidan (who just sits there and lets people hit him, not a good idea when you get hit with a sword that can chop you in half with little effort). Hell, he'd have a better chance vs oro than he would against half of akatsuki.

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I kinda agree, but he has moments with Sakura where you can see he has it in him to make her special. The best moment is here. Recently, he could have shown her slapping down Karui (after avoiding Omoi's attack, keeping with her dodging specialty), and then crying about Sasuke after. Shinobi level up, teenage girl level down, everybody wins.

I think he just gets cold feet. "Omg, this chick is starting to look kinda strong, i should cool off for a bit before people start thinking she's a hardcore lesbian or dude in drag or something". There's a reason why yugito went straight to bijuu.

[jdw]

What are you talking about lol? Zabusa was an elite ninja, among the very best the mist had to offer. May I remind you that in his first appearance he actually bested kakashi(kakashi got trapped in a water sphere and could not get out). He did get defeated twice after that but in both ocations it was only after considerable amount of trouble. To be completely honest I would not think zabuza is even that much more skilled than most akatsuki(with the exception of oro, kakusu and pein), what changes is mostly the fighting style. IMHO saying zabusa was HARDLY a monster is a massive understatement. Hell, the reason sakura does not stand a chance is not that she is overall weak or anything(I would think she is considerable above the average for someone her age) but simply because how much of a monster zabusa was. It's not like any of the other rookies(excluding naruto and sasuke) will have a chance against him.

Zabuza was fine, nothing special. Neji of today would kill him with relative ease, IMO, so would Lee, I think.

As for comparing Zabuza to Akatsuki I can barely keep my laughter from pouring onto the keyboard. Lets do a rundown:

1. Pain: Zabuza never gets to fight.
2. Madara: Zabuza never gets to fight.
3. Konan: approved
4. Kakazu: Zabuza dies 1-5 minutes.
5. Itachi: Zabuza never gets to fight.
6. Hidan: Zabuza claims victory then dies. Won't realize he cannot lose a single blood droplet.
7. Sasori: Zabuza lives 30 seconds, tops.
8. Deidara: Zabuza lives 30 seconds tops.
9. Zetsu: Zetsu will win, unsure how quickly until chapter is out.
10. Kisame: Takes down jinchuuriki alone. 2 minutes for Zabuza because of respect from same village.
11. Oro: Zabuza dies in a minute.

Beating Konan would be his claim to fame against Akatsuki
They would not even consider his membership application, and Konan was probably only allowed due to Pain, so unless Kisame is going to vouch for him it is a loud, resounding no.

[kkck]

Zabuza was fine, nothing special. Neji of today would kill him with relative eas, IMO, so would Lee, I think.

As for comparing Zabuza to Akatsuki I can barely keep my laughter from pouring onto the keyboard. Lets do a rundown:

1. Pain: Zabuza never gets to fight.
2. Madara: Zabuza never gets to fight.
3. Konan: Zabuza has a shot.
4. Kakazu: Zabuza dies 1-5 minutes.
5. Itachi: Zabuza never gets to fight.
6. Hidan: Zabuza claims victory then dies. Won't realize he cannot lose a single blood droplet.
7. Sasori: Zabuza lives 30 seconds, tops.
8. Deidara: Zabuza lives 30 seconds tops.
9. Zetsu: Zetsu will win, unsure how quickly until chapter is out.
10. Kisame: Takes down jinchuuriki alone. 2 minutes for Zabuza because of respect from same village.
11. Oro: Zabuza dies in a minute.

Beating Konan would be his claim to fame against Akatsuki
They would not even consider his membership application, and Konan was probably only allowed due to Pain, so unless Kisame is going to vouch for him it is a loud, resounding no.

I probably should have elaborated on what I said earlier lol. Here is my opinion of how zabuza would fare against the akatsuki(I did say skill though, which involves more area of expertize and ability rather than overall strength):

Pein: No one can trully defeat pein lol.

Madara: He losses this one.

Itachi: His mist jutsu will buy him a fighting chance but will ultimately lose.

Konan: He gets her wet and wins(YAY).

Kakuzu: In all fairness kakuzu even defeated kakashi lol. I would think
zubusa ultimately losses but he could very well take 1 or 2 hearts(at most)

Sasori: Ok, he would lose this one but I still think he could put a fight. At least take out a few puppets lol(not the kazekage one though).

Zetsu: Impossible to know since we know nothing of zetsu. Hopefully he is not dead by now lol.

Kisame: I think kisame is stronger than zabusa but in no way he is overwhelmingly superior to zabusa. I would think zabusa could keep up with kisame's movements without much trouble and zabusa is also a fairly accomplished water user. It's not like a huge lake of water will hurt zabusa in the least. I would think zabusa's msit jutsu would hurt kisame more than a lake of water would hurt zabusa.

Deiadara: I think in terms of overall skill they should be somewhat similar but deidara's fighting stile would ultimately have the edge. For one thing, deidara can simply escape the mist and attack from above. I do doubt deidara's lower level explosions will be enough to take out zabusa though.

Hidan: I honestly think zabusa could win this one lol. Sure, hidan has his jutsu but it requires him to at least get a hit on zabusa which would be hard in a thick mist. Zabusa simply has to go for hidans head. Even though hidan won't actually die, once zabuza uses his "sword of beheading" with his mist jutsu hidan would probably be out for the count. Also, even is hidan gets the blood, he still has to complete the ritual which would be zabusa's last chance to decapitate hidan.

[SuperSaiyaMan]

I doubt Konan can be beaten by Zabuza. To be fair, her powers should not work well in water, however, she's been seen fighting in the rain in flashbacks, and not only that, she was up against Jiraiya who knew her weakness to Oil. Oil makes more sense in stopping her since it forces her body to stick together, making it unable for her to use her paper jutsus. Not only that, Pain holds her in high esteem.

Thus, Zabuza would probably lose to her. Without using an oil-based attack, well, he's nearly fudged in combat against her.