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question.. where the hell is yoruichi? I haven't seen her in thousand year war arc. what could she be up to? as we all know she just pops out of nowhere during the battle like in battle against aizen..
another question as we all know there are 4 noble houses three of them are kuchki-shiba-shihouin clan.. what if quincy are 1st noble house but got banished because of something.. like they completely obliterate hollow.. or rebelled against soul king.
On a secret mission? Don't care what she did during the first phase, but she could have been one of those people Kyoraku met before talking to Ichigo's school mates.
im having bleach withdrawls people......
the upcomming chapters have potential to be the best of the series, to exceed even the soul society arc if kubo does this right (which is why hes taking his time)
i am both excited to to see whats going to happen, and sad that this amazing story is ending
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I wonder where they got the mask from, it looked thick and made out of pottery. So at least something from Bleach besides "bleach" was in the video.
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Some random thoughts: We have hollows[spain], we have quincy[germany] and shinigami[japan], what do these have in common? All "evil" nations from the second world war. Germany and Japan were real partners, while spain wasn't treated like a real threat, just like Aizen didn't deem them so at the end of his little war. Nazis used the Swastika, Ichigo and japan have the Sauwastika/Manji, representing Dharma, universal harmony, and the balance of opposites. I'm pretty sure that Tite won't have quincies wer swatiskas now, but maybe there is something behind all that symbolism and opposite views on life between those two factions. Not gonna help with the future plot, but the parallels are there.
Well, I think Shinigamis are japanese because manga is from Japan and there's no real connection between World War II and Bleach :P Spanish names sound cool, and german names sound... strict? They are kind of perfect for attackers who are evil organization. But I'm polish, so it may be just me who feels that way :P
But the Hollow/Arrancar names are based on multi-national architects and nearly no one from the Vandenreich has a german sounding.
Also I wrote about similarities/references/parallels, not direct,evident connections between WW2 and this manga.
edit: I know that it's shinigami because it's a japanese manga, hollows are "spanish" because of their hotbloodedness and quincy "german" because of the "hardness", just thought about a "funny" similarity.
Last edited by Schabrak; August 26, 2013 at 10:22 AM. Reason: no more irony
Boy I WISH those bad ass Arrancars were based on my country, but the honor probably belongs to Mexico. I don't think all Hollows are supposed to be Spanish anyhow -not a single name has a Spanish-sounding name besides Baraggan (Barragán is a Spanish surname alright). Closest thing there is is Ulquiorra (Urquiola, a Basque surname) and Dordoni (an Italian surname).
The Wandenreich is probably made of Quincies from all around the world (there is a Chinese one, a German-like one and a French one and yadda yadda. They even got a Japanese dude (Ishida). The German is mostly used for theme, just like Spanish. More than "Germany", the Wandenreich is based on the Third Reich; probably because of them being "unmistakenly evil" in pop culture. What with the military uniforms and flags and shit. We all know "Third Reich" does not equal Germany.
Also you totally forgot about Italy, who was the third player in WWII and not Spain. Also you disregarded Portugal, who was yet another neutral dictatorship with yet another sob of a dictator who somewhat sympathized with the nazis. Of course, I am used to being mixed up with Italians just like Portuguese are used to be with Spain.
Arrancars are not Spanish and Quincies are not German is what I'm trying to say. Kubo just picked a language and some foreign-sounding names in order to make the enemy appear cool and menacing at the same time; nothing more.
BTW I guess Kubo's German is as atrocious as his Spanish LOL.
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Ah, I'd actually wondered if Kubo had Spanish or Latin American in mind when he was doing the Hollow based stuff. I was a terrible Spanish student at school, so I don't know if there's a language difference between the two, but I always assumed there was. Not important, but interesting nonetheless.
Anyway, on that point about the nationalities of the characters themselves, I've wondered if SS and HM deals with souls from he entire world, but I've come to think they're coming solely from Japan. I vaguely remember seeing some figures for how many souls are in SS (though I don't remember where), and I think the way it worked out only makes sense if they're from Japan or Asia... I don't know, maybe it was in a databook. Even Yoruichi, I don't think she's actually meant to be black, just dark skinned. Then again there is Zommari, who I reckon actually was black, but if it were a worldwide thing, there would be more people of different skin colours and what have you in the manga in general. It could just be Kubo's approach to character design of course.
The Quincy, though, I do wonder about. Arrancar having distinctly non-Japanese names makes sense, since they basically take on entirely new identities when they become Hollows, and possibly again when they become Menos. These Quincy on the other hand, are either living or dead, but there's no reason to assume they don't retain their identity when they die, like Shinigami, or the Fullbringers. So their non-Japanese names would suggest a wider array of nationalities. Askin Nakk Something Something (Sternritter D) definitely seems Arabian for example. Hmmm....
Anyway, if SS is just the afterlife of Japan, it does open up the possibility of entirely separate worlds existing for other parts of the globe. Still, it seems implausible that they wouldn't even be mentioned, so I don't know what the hell to think about it. Might just be a case of relating to the author's nationality obviously, but it could be deliberate too.
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