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    Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk

    What is the ToC ranking?
    ToC stands for Table of Contents. It's found on the last page of every issue of WSJ, but more importantly, the order the series appear in on the ToC is closely related to the popularity of the series. This is determined by polling the readers; there is a polling postcard in every issue of WSJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by oceanizer View Post
    Each week, a certain guy from 2ch writes out TOC for the following week's Jump. TOC order is usually based on polling result of readers, thus you will know how your favorite series are doing based on the order.

    Some exceptions etc:
    - For the 2nd-8th chapters, TOC is already decided, though it could change depends on readers' ranking.
    - The TOC is affected by the popularity of 8 chapter ago.
    - Shueisha's aiming their main target as elementary and junior high school students, thus, their votes weigh probably more than others (fangirls).
    How can I find out what series runs in WSJ?
    Click HERE for a list of all the current series running in WSJ. Each link will lead you to more details about the manga, and where you can find translations for all your favourite series! You can also find past series in WSJ by changing the Status filters on that page.

    Where are the past WSJ threads?
    - Weekly Shounen Jump Scan Dump! [2007]
    - Weekly Shounen Jump (Shounen Mag by Shueisha) [Archive 2008 and older]
    - Weekly Shonen Jump [2009] - Discussion and TOC Talk
    - Weekly Shonen Jump [2010] - Discussion and TOC Talk
    - Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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    Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk

    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is Here

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    Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by k-dom View Post
    I don't want to take a step back because that was what the discussion was about.
    Nothing exists in a void, there is a big picture. You made the argument that Gintama is a series on decline, and a series Jump will not use as a flagship. This statement does not become any more true if you ignore everything but covers and the TOC. The reality is that Gintama is as popular as ever, extensively promoted throughout the country, considered one of the greatest comedy manga ever, and appeals to fans who do not typically follow Jump.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizou 10 View Post
    You are mistaking with Ultra Red (Suzuki's second serialization); Rising Impact has a total of 17 volumes.
    I don't think he is closely associated with Jump.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    Is there no post of their average ToC popularity this year.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by SharkBait View Post
    Is there no post of their average ToC popularity this year.
    Well, I think you should wait until the last ToC of the year released.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizou 10
    That ranking for the author who wish to return to Shounen Jump. Inoue and Araki do serializing currently, but they are serializing in different magazine; the fans want both of them to return to Jump.
    What's the difference? The fans should support the authors, not a magazine in my opinion. There is no difference for me where they serializing if the series is good. The ranking is interesting to see, but no good to take seriously.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    @MiyamotoMusashi The source was today's issue of Jump from Viz. Page 64 says that 345 million copies were sold worldwide.

    Author's comments for those who may have missed it.
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    AFAIK Gintama's sales are decreasing since 2 years ago it's sales wouldn't drop off oricon top 30 while being somewhere at 380K-460K while not it has the trouble of reaching the 350K or more in oricon top 50 but still the sales for the movie are very impressive if that is the medium we should check since I don't know what other merchandise the series have but it did stay very stable for years and is an amazing manga which has it's well-deserved spot on Jump's wall.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Leoat12 View Post
    What's the difference? The fans should support the authors, not a magazine in my opinion. There is no difference for me where they serializing if the series is good. The ranking is interesting to see, but no good to take seriously.
    I think those are for just Jump fans, not the actual Inoue and Araki fans.

    I think your the only one who actually take serious about what people said about that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizou 10 View Post
    I think those are for just Jump fans, not the actual Inoue and Araki fans.

    I think your the only one who actually take serious about what people said about that list.
    I didn't take the list serious. I posted to explain why I said that before. Well, nevermind.

    Murata's comment was nostalgic. :P
    How Naoshi-san could forget his own series anniversary? I think he was joking.
    Well, at least things are going well enough with Nisekoi to make this kind of joke. :P

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    So since someone in the previous thread asked for list of CPs this year
    Here you go

    If I've missed something, forgive me. Its 1 am here in Dubai :P

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    I've not included the CP's that new series get in their second weeks since most of them didn't make it past the initial stages.
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    Thats rather impressive for Haikyuu!! (Imo) getting double that of Kurobas (well deserved), but also for World Trigger matching Toriko.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    lulz, I made a research as well My list is a bit different though, and including Lead Color Pages + Oneshots/Special Chapters/Crossovers

    Spoiler: ALL CP's of Issue 1 to 52 show
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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by SharkBait View Post
    Thats rather impressive for Haikyuu!! (Imo) getting double that of Kurobas (well deserved), but also for World Trigger matching Toriko.
    I think it has a lot to do with an author's willingness to do them. The top of that list are popular series no doubt, but they're also newer authors. Promotion of potential hits is a factor as well.

    Gintama having 5 is kind of surprising to me, I bet the movie had something to do with that. I think Sorachi has said he doesn't enjoy doing them, or someone made that assumption since the series hasn't had many historically, despite it's success. Also, Naruto only having 1 and Bleach only having 3. Bleach has had years where it's had a really large amount.

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    Re: Weekly Shonen Jump [2013-2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by naruto-niichan View Post
    lulz, I made a research as well My list is a bit different though, and including Lead Color Pages + Oneshots/Special Chapters/Crossovers

    Spoiler: ALL CP's of Issue 1 to 52 show
    Haha.
    This is way more detailed. Nice work. Would have taken you quite sometime to do all that.
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