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Rules and Conditions:
1. Tousen can't use bankai, but can use all of his hollow powers.
2. Shunsui's shikai doesn't negate Kaname's abilities.
3. Shunsui can only use shikai
1. Tousen can use bankai and his hollow powers. No resurrescion.
2. Shunsui shikai doesn't negate Kaname's abilities.
3. Shunsui can use bankai when it is shown.
IMO Kaname would win scenario 2, but I'm not sure about the first one. Even though Kaname is more durable with his hollow powers, and has high speed regeneration, he doesn't seem to have many offensive options without his bankai. Also Shunsui is a way more skilled swordsman than Kaname.
In the second scenario, Kaname would probably win by using his hollow powers and bankai or just his ressurection.
Last edited by En Yang Ji; September 25, 2010 at 10:01 AM.
So...Kaname can use all his most powerful abilities and you restrict what might be one of Shunsui's which is the power restriction? How is that fair?
The reason I made it so Shunsui can't restrict Kaname's abilities, is because it was never proven he could. I would allow Shunsui to use bankai, but we don't know what it does.
That's why I made two scenarios.
Last edited by En Yang Ji; February 12, 2010 at 09:03 PM.
Shunsui wins both scenario:
Shunsui plays color games. You can only hit the color the opponent is wearing
Tousen: "um... yellow. wait, what does yellow look like?"
shunsui cant restrict kaname's abilities? as far as i know kaname's first hollowification is all dressed white . does white despair ring a bell? and his second state is a giant black fly
what was that rule , -if you stand on any shadow you lose the game- was it? how about becoming the shadow itself ? tho it may be debatable as to whether darkness and shadows can be considered the same.
The second scenario I give to Kaname. There's no way I see Shunsui winning. Although Kaname can't see colors, if he used his bankai Shunsui wouldn't be able to see anything either. Also if, by some chance Shunsui gets a hit on Kaname while in his bankai, it probably would be a non-lethal inaccurate hit. Kaname regeneration abilities will take care of that.
IMO there's is a good chance of Tousen killing Shunsui with his bankai before Shunsui's shikai decides to use Irooni.
Are we having a scenario that gives a chance that Shunsui's zanpaktou won't cooperate? I think that makes it too situational
Given that shunsui can control his sword (which i think he can, I think his sword started getting serious after he got serious when uki fell), anyone within his SP will have to play the game. He only needs a glimpse of tousen to see what he is wearing. Tousen can't tell colors so he can choose as much as he wants or slash at shunsui as much as he wants, it won't hurt shunsui. Furthermore, wouldn't the shadow game be best played under tousen's bankai? The question is, can shunsui see while he is moving in the shadows?
Another thing people seem to forget is that for Shunsui to get inside his opponent's shadow, it seems they have to be distracted. We've seen him do it twice now, and in both cases he did it while his opponent was occupied with others.
Here's another thing to consider, will Kaname be distracted in his resureccion form by his newfound eyesight (as he was when Shuuhei owned him)? I ask this because I for one am a firm believer that Kaname was ridiculously powerful in that form, and it was basically a fluke that he got killed so easily.
I think it his cricket-mode Kaname could have easily wrecked most of the captains, including Shunsui. Unless of course Shunsui's bankai ends up being awesome. We all know that's likely to be the case so.... Shunsui would win, but he'd have to use his bankai.
I don't think the opponent needs to be distracted for the shadow game to work. Starks was hit with it when he landed since he couldn't get caught by a shadow in the air.
Same goes for aizen, he was floating. It wasn't until he was hit by the ice that he cast a shadow
Actually now that I think about it Irooni is almost the perfect attack for Tousen...especially if he is using just his mask...He wouldn't have any perception of what is white and black or color...So he he'd be slashing blind...and if it was the wrong color he said it wouldn't cut anything. and just so you know it does limit what color you can cut...
Last edited by savantking; February 13, 2010 at 12:24 AM.
Irooni is very effective against Kaname, but Shunsui may not even be able to kill him. In his ressurecion form Kaname has shown feats on par with Aizen most recent feats. He might just be able to stop Shunsui's swords with his reiastu everytime.
Would the game color work against resurreccion tousen though? Technically, he is not wearing clothes so the game should be useless altogether. If the game worked on skin color or anything of the sort shunsui might have just said starrk's skincolor from the start and pawn him (or starrk could have said the same). If the colors are about what the oponent is wearing, then shunsui has trouble. Tousen is resurreccion form showed quite a bit of speed and his destructive power surpased that of komamura by quite a bit. If the boost tousen got from hollowification is of the same nature as that of the hyogoku arrancar I would lean towards him in this fight. Masked tousen rather than released tousen would give shunsui more than enough trouble as it is. He shouldn't know colors but he could easily guess simple things like the color of a haori is white or the color of a shinigami kimono is black (200 years in sereitei should give him that much). On another note, if shunsui says black or white, kanane can deal damage even when it is not his turn so even with just mask he has a good chance of using the game against shunsui). Considering everything, and the wide range of tousen's attacks, I go for him on this one as long as he does not go crazy and fights like he normally does.
Last edited by kkck; February 13, 2010 at 05:06 PM.