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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Yeah; I don't think Ukitaki can win; infact I think they are pretty evenly matched; it's no wonder that ukitaki was over hyped and he's no where near kyouraku's level; he may be a vet but he sucks for one no offense.
I don't think so, Ukitake is just sick that's the point, if he wasn't he could have been easily on Kyoraku level, or maybe even better than him. The thing that makes him considered weak is his low endurance and by his laid back attitude preferring using words over sword..btw i think Zaraki's strength isn't enough to get rid of Ukitake Experience and Skills.
the manga seems to hint that if he wasn't sick he would most likely be dead even with Shunsui since both are a team and it wouldn't make since to be a Legendary team in SS if Shunsui was doing all the work don't you think?
so offcoarse Ukitake is on Shunsui's level.
could he beat Shunsui?
no way in hell but if he wasn't sick he'd have a VERY good chance at doing it.
all that being said i think Ukitake wins this.
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i'm i HUGE Kenpachi fan but the manga has implied that Senior Captains are just on a diffrent level then the newer Captains and even tho Ukitake is sick he still FAR outweighs Kenpachi in experiance and by manga hype alone for the Senior Captains i'd say Ukitake wins
id have to say ukitake, i think hes got a lot more to show us later on, hes still got the possibility of more shikai abilities, bankai, and kido which i think he will be a prominate user of. hes got the same amount of experience as shunsui, like badazzken said, they are known for being a duo that fight with each other, they would have to be on the same level to make that work.
kenpachi has a chance though, i would like to think that kenpachi has been a captain for longer than we think and is also on his way to becomeing a lot more powerful. we know that hes talking to his zanpakdo now and that alone has already helped him cut through the strongest heirro of any arrancar so far. im confident we will see him use bankai before the manga ends.
Kenpachi would probable win some trouble. Kenpachi is really physically fit and has animal instincts. Ukitake has experience, his shupo and great shika ablities. Even though Ukitake would be faster with his shupo, most of his attacks are weaker and slower due to his sickeness. He is much physcially weaker than Kenpachi, who seems to be at his peak of physical prowess. In addition most of Ukitake's attack, I think are base upon using his shika and kido...which Kenpachi doesn't use at all. He only use his own strength.
Ukitake gets stomped. He has no feats showing he can even fight an opponent like Kenpachi. What energy is he going to redirect? He's just gonna get chopped down by a guy who has more power than him in the sword department....and WAY more endurance.
Not enough information on Ukitake's abilities to make this a fair fight. Zaraki wins through feats, unfortunately.
Wouldn't Ukitake be able to redirect Kenpachi's kendo?
Kenpachi would rape him...bakudou won't work on him like bak.99 didn't work on Ichigo....hadou would at most char him a bit like 90(on Koma) and 96(on Aizen)...
Speed....I don't think there's such a huge gap,and Kenpachi can just grab him and punch him in the stomach to make him swallow 3 liters of blood!
Ukitake being one of the actually oldest captain doesn't mean s**t in the end,there can be thousands reasons for him being alive,like having people butting in to save his a++!damn,Kaien died and Rukia saved his a**!
He got one-shot by WW while Mashiro and Kensei could fight against him.
The only thing OldYama praised beside his personality was his unrivaled team-work with Shunsui due to their complementary abilitiesEFENCE(reflecting all energy attacks)/OFFENSE(1-2hits ko).Beside that,nothing shows that he is worth the hype!he screwed everything,everytime,even the more basic rules of shinigami of fair fights ecc......
Last edited by Yans86; March 13, 2010 at 07:32 AM.
I voted for Ukitaki just for the sheer fact we haven't seen all he can do, sure WW one-hitted him but that as by surprise (still his fault for letting himself getting snuck up on like that) I'd still like to see what his bankai holds, how'd he'd do if he didn't have TB etc etc
Kenpachi is still my favy tho.
This is a kenpachi stomp. Ukitake has a 40 in vitality so hes half the captain he used to be....or even less.
Well we have no idea what the extent of his power truly is. he has never shown his true power. He was trained by Yama so weak he isnt. Ken is all about strength, and Utiaki would lose, but the Zampakuto is where the match will be decided.
Ukitake starts hacking up blood to make Kenpachi walk away out of pity. Then Ukitake claims victory. That's his only chance..otherwise Kenpachi slices and dices him.
Ukitake hasn't even had a real fight yet, and chances are his shikai still has another ability. Until Kubo stops plotfucking him, it's pretty much impossible to guess where Ukitake really stands combatwise.
Someone remember when Stark came for Orihime? Kenpachi and Ichi didint even see when he vanished. I think Kenpachi have NO chance. Shinsui & ukitake can survive the fight with yamamoto who can beat kenpachi with a wooden sword in his hand:P