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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
Ermm. Well Ichigo Bankai withou mask vs Shunsui would put up a good fight since he fight pretty well byakuya in his bankai IN SENKEI well shunsui isnt that much of a diference than byakuya... Byakuya trains way mroe than shunsui thats why in 100 years he almost at his level! But still i Think shunsui wins against Ichigo BANKAI only! And here shunsui WOULD also need bankai not only shikai... Shunsui Bankai (if his shikai is that strong than his bankai is certanly very strong) vs Ichigo bankai Shunsui wins but ichigo would put up a good fight!
Vaizard Bankai Ichigo is several times stronger and faster so he would most probably defeat shunsui... but it would be a good fight as well.
Ichigonator or FULL hollow ichigo.. How can still people say that THEY HAVE no ideia about who would win here? lol Ichigonator SINGLE handed blocked lanza del relampago and defeated Ulquiorra wich is far way stronger than shunsui lol This would be OWNAGE to ichigonator!
I could be even more detailed but i think this is more than enough to proove that ichigo isnt a weakling that any captain can own him lol so far the only captains that can beat him are yamamoto shunsui ... the other... nah ...
Normal ichigo stands no chance. Shunsui is pretty much on another level.
Masked Ichigo just adds some power and speed. Nothing a top level captain can't handle.
The new hollow ichigo however... that is another story. I think it is pretty clear by now that the new form is basically the form aizen just got, but with a mask. He didn't just beat Uli, he casually wiped him away. I have no doubt that he could have done the same to starrk. Shunsui may have more skill than the berserk hollow, but raw power and speed takes this one.
Ichigonator would probably win if it has instant regeneration. (If Shunsui plays his hax games)
Also, Ulquiorra's Lanza is being ridiculously underestimated. Las Noches is the size of a city, if not larger, and Lanza Del Relampago had the power to destroy it. That's much larger than Hitsugaya's flowers.
In Shikai it might be hard for Shunsui to win, but given the fact he didn't get hurt at all from a cero directly to the back, when Ichigo got his mask blown off from cero O, I think it speaks of Shunsui's durability. Not that the two are the same cero, but we see the difference in strength and durability. Of course Ichigo had just faced Grimmjow, but I think the point still stands, he was healed somewhat from Orihime. Starrk showed superior speed and Shunsui kept up with him. I think there is a great difference in someone who's been a captain for maybe 300 or more years, to a 16/17 year old kid who finds out he's got a hollow inside of him.
Last edited by freshseth83; July 19, 2010 at 11:35 PM.