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    Vizards Vs SS

    we know the vizards only allies for ichigo but what if they decide to take there revenge on the SS for beign kicked out. there intresting match ups only thing are vizards is how good they fight in team


    rules:

    1.Yama not in fight for SS
    2. Battle in SS (home turf advantage for SS)
    3. Captains only for SS
    4. Vizards HAICI CAN NOW BE IN FIGHT vizards need healer/kido user ( ty El samurai after thort you were rite)
    Last edited by Hystzen; March 20, 2010 at 08:02 AM.

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    This is a pretty one-sided match here. Even without Yamamoto, it would still be only four captain level vizards vs. 9 gotei 13 captains. Moreover, you took Hachi out, the vizard's only healer, while SS has Unohana...

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    thort taking out uno wud ad to much ad vantage
    dont think it that one sided love kessi and shinj prob stronger than alot of caps and plus mask on top

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    The only captains posing a real problem for the vizards will be: Shuinsu, kenpachi and mayuri.
    Also what about the Vizard VL's? Do they join the battle aswell?

    my initial lineup would be: (
    Soifon vs Rose - Win
    Rose his Vaizard abilities are needed to beat Soifon (his hypnosis and shikai are required here)
    Shuinsu vs Shinji - Win
    Due to shuinsu his strenght and shikai its required for shinji to use his shikai to be able to beat it.
    Ukitake vs Hiyori - Lose
    Random selection for ukitake, Hiyori just isnt strong enough to beat ukitake (considering he wont get sick during the fight)
    Hitsugaya vs Mashiro (for humorous reasons we can already gues) - tie (either could win).
    Mashiro her abilitie to annoy any serious person could actualy mean she could win from histu
    Komamura vs Love - Win
    Personaly i believe that Love his physical strenght is higher then komamura. Also I presume his bankai is related to his shikai.
    mayuri vs Lisa - Lose
    Mayuri needs to be overpowered before he can use bankai however Lisa might not be strong enough to do so.
    Byakuya vs Kensei - Tie (either could win)
    nothing special to say, we know both their powers. However i would say this win is for Kensei only due to his hollow powers.
    Kenpachi vs X

    Considering the line ups and the general strenght of the vaizards vs SS i would say SS would actualy lose against the vaizards, since all the vaizards know how SS fights and also knows pretty much all they need to know about the abilities of the current captains.
    I presumed the Vaizards would try to fight SS before the winter war, before they could see any of the powers from certain captains like mayuri, Byakuya and komumaru


    edit:
    Also put into the rules that Unohana won't be competing.

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    Vizards need the VL to keep the numbers more fair.. i could see:
    shinji vs byakura - shinji shikai wud affect byakuras speed
    Lisa vs Hitsu-close this tie
    kensei vs Kom-kensei win i think not just brute force

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    I have to lean towards SS. I think the former VC could fight at the captain level with shikai and mask but I don't think they would reach the level of a captain with bankai. SS wins because they basically outnumber the vizards.

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    SS has some captains who have personality probs that could let them down:

    hitsu has major anger problems which leaves holes in his defence
    zaraki only fights strongest and a loner wont work with other caps
    Mayuri wud get bored if a 'inferior' person fights and could lose by not paying attention ( it the reason uryu won IMO)
    Ukitake is a wild card could have his TB flare up
    Shunsui to laid back unless he gets serious

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    The only thing I gotta wonder is how many people Shinji can put in his inverted world at once. If he can use his shikai on all of the captains from SS simultaneously, then I would say that it's possible the vizards could win this, despite SS having more captains.

    I think this would be more interesting if it were the 4 vizard captains vs. top 4 current gotei 13 captains (not including Yamamoto). Like...for instance:

    Shinji vs. Shunsui
    Rose vs. Kenpachi
    Love vs. Byakuya
    Kensei vs. Jushirou

    In all 4 cases I think the vizards would win. I also think Shinji is the 3rd strongest character in Bleach.

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    The vizards have 4, lets say 5 captain level fighters...SS has 9 w/o yama...Even though Kensei and Shinji could give any captain a run for their money, its just too great of a numbers game for the vizards to win..In a 9 vs 5 situation the 5 have to be excessively stronger, and they are not..
    Thank You Kubo...You have proven once and for all, that Yamamoto Genryuusai is STRONGER THAN AIZEN SOUSUKE despite what the fanboys think

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    As much as I do think the former captains could go toe to toe with the older captains thanks to their mask I just don't see them winning against that many opponents. Seriously, just one captain bankai is probably enough to hold back mashiro, hiyori and liza at this point. Unless the former VCs have bankai I don't see them being that useful. I would think that just byakuya releasing shikai would be enough to deal with the former VCs lol. Why isn't hachi allowed here though? I guess he isn't much of a fighter anyways but it'd be interesting if he can actually seal captains in a barrier.

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    Quote Originally Posted by vizardichigo View Post
    The vizards have 4, lets say 5 captain level fighters...SS has 9 w/o yama...Even though Kensei and Shinji could give any captain a run for their money, its just too great of a numbers game for the vizards to win..In a 9 vs 5 situation the 5 have to be excessively stronger, and they are not..
    SS consist of 13 captains normaly subract 3 vacant seats, subtract yama and unohana. Unohana doesnt fight unless she is forced to. She is the Captain of the medical squad after all.
    Last edited by Richo; March 20, 2010 at 06:13 AM.

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    I think SS captains (except 4 senior captains) vs Vizards (except Hachigen) would be a more interesting match-up.

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    Quote Originally Posted by hyst-gundam View Post
    SS has some captains who have personality probs that could let them down:

    hitsu has major anger problems which leaves holes in his defence
    zaraki only fights strongest and a loner wont work with other caps
    Mayuri wud get bored if a 'inferior' person fights and could lose by not paying attention ( it the reason uryu won IMO)
    Ukitake is a wild card could have his TB flare up
    Shunsui to laid back unless he gets serious
    Well he's currently fighting with Byakuya to defeat Yammi.

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Oathencrantz View Post
    Well he's currently fighting with Byakuya to defeat Yammi.
    he is not fighting perfectly together he would rather fight yammi then byakuya he has threatened byakuya numerous times when yammi is in front of them.

    the prob with this match up is even tho i posted it becoz we not sure
    what the vizards full powers are. the SS we seen nearly all there bankai and what they capable to do in a fight and how they fight. doesnt help kubo made them a fail to make aizen more powerfull

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    Re: Vizards Vs SS

    Quote Originally Posted by kkck View Post
    I would think that just byakuya releasing shikai would be enough to deal with the former VCs lol.
    Come on now, that's obviously an exaggeration. Byakuya's shikai sucks so bad that shikai Ichigo can easily defeat it, and shikai Ichigo can't even defeat a privaron espada. Lisa, on the other hand was going toe-to-toe with Harribel by herself (while SEALED) for a while when Toushirou and Hyori were arguing.

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