Nen

[kkck]

Would pure mean pure good? You can be pure evil lol -dbz reference lol-. The impression I have of the description given to reinforcement users is that they are simpleminded -not dumb though- and straightforward. Not so much as them being good or evil but rather being the type to just do stuff and not overthink and calculate.

[blai]

They can be pure-hearted but yet evil yeah. Pure - Corrupted / Good - Evil.
I think that's what he meant.

[Jack Van Burace]

I think Pure means straightforward, unable to lie and hide his true intentions.

[Uriel]

Ubog was NOT Pure evil.
I do agree with the simple minded and straight forward, but that's not PURE-HEARTED.

OK, that being said I should move on XD

[Tombadgerlock]

Pfff, Reinforcement is, in Hisoka's opinion, not 'pure hearted', but straight-forward. Very different.

[kkck]

Something I have never really been able to grasp is what exactly is the purpose of reinforcement. I know this should not be the case given that reinforcement is the simplest of all nen types but the type itself seems to do so little that its usefulness seems vague. What exactly stops anyone from being a reinforcement? Isn't reinforcement simply putting nen into punches and to defend? For instance, what exactly stops killua from using rock? Rock is merely a mass on nen placed on a fist, there is nothing special to it. It is the exact same thing uvogin did. Are other nen types incapable of inefficient at putting nen on their attacks or to defend? What exactly is the deal here?

[Jack Van Burace]

Because Intensification/Reinforcement type Nen is about increasing one's ability. When you use Nen on your eyes, your eyesight is increased and one can see Nen and other things better. When used on your body, your punches will grow stronger and your defense harder.

Intensification is like a buff spell, that doesn't actually hit the opponent but makes the user faster, harder, stronger, in order for him to hit the opponent using regular (but enhanced) fighting moves.

It's like an acessory spell of RPGs, as opposed to attack spells that injure the opponents directly. The better at intensification one gets, the bigger the buff.

Killua does increase his own speed with electricity, and that's likely to be his transformation Nen combined with intensification somehow, to create that skill.

[Uriel]

I wouldn't say speed, but response. Killua technique is WONDERFUL. Works as good as Intensification in the sense that enhance a physical feature.

In some way, all the techniques that means fighting one on one end requiring intensification. I think it gets confusing because in some point all the techniques have more than one Nen type. You just need to notice what is produced by what, if you follow me.

[kkck]

Because Intensification/Reinforcement type Nen is about increasing one's ability. When you use Nen on your eyes, your eyesight is increased and one can see Nen and other things better. When used on your body, your punches will grow stronger and your defense harder.

Intensification is like a buff spell, that doesn't actually hit the opponent but makes the user faster, harder, stronger, in order for him to hit the opponent using regular (but enhanced) fighting moves.

It's like an acessory spell of RPGs, as opposed to attack spells that injure the opponents directly. The better at intensification one gets, the bigger the buff.

Killua does increase his own speed with electricity, and that's likely to be his transformation Nen combined with intensification somehow, to create that skill.

So reinforcement is basically the ability to use your nen at 120? Otherwise just putting nen in your fist or legs should bear the same result regardless of the type user.

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I could see killua's technique having a few severe side effects. This is the main issue with it IMO.
http://www.onemanga.com/Hunter_X_Hunter/281/14/

When killua uses kanmuru, he is not the one in control. He kinda programs himself in advance to naturally react to his surroundings or more specifically the enemy. This makes sense considering he is reacting before he could actually process anything and most likely moves faster than what he could naturally even control. The issue I see with this is that since killua basically programs himself, he sets himself to react in specific ways to specific things, his reaction to unforeseen things could be severely limited. For instance, if he sets himself to attack anything which attacks him and a friend comes nearby and his programs misinterprets it, he could potentially hurt a friend and only actually learn about the fact long after it is done -don't take the example THAT literally, I merely want to point out programing himself in advance could be disadvantageous-.

[Jack Van Burace]

I think that Intensification users aren't gonna get as good results by making conditions for their moves as Specification users. The same way, other Nen types won't get as good buffs as Intensification Nen users.

In terms of buffing yourself using Nen, they're likely to top the others, as in getting a higher buff with more ease. Killua does use Nen like that, but it's like Gon using Emission: he has a lot of trouble to get a short distance, while true emission type users are likely to reach far with ease.

Gon's buffs (and all Intensification users) are likely to have a better result than any other Nen type user when trying to enhance their features.

[lobo971]

fun fact: Togashi did have the nen theory back then when writting yuyuhakusho:
Yusuke: renforcement/projection
Kurama: materialisation ( plants )
Hiei: transformation ( fire elemental)
Kuwabara: transformation/specialisation: energy swords/transdimensional sword

i just love how togashi developped for a while the whole Nen theory and practise, i hope there is still room for more learning. the useful thing about his all Nen theory is that it can basically cover any kind of superpowers... pure genius!

[Tombadgerlock]

Kurama was manipulation.

Anyway, the point of Reinforcement is that everyone uses it: 'Ten' uses Reinforcement, as well as 'Ken', or 'Shuu', and so on.

A reinforcement user, basically, *may or may not* have special techniques, but his base stats will always be higher than a user of the same 'level' but different affinity.

Togashi managed to make a manga where everything matter (luck, power levels, special abilities, and tactics), so it's not surprising there is a nen type that just 'buff the basic'.

Of course, you can do more with reinforcement (healing for example) but that's just taking it in other directions.

[kkck]

I don't think the author necessarily had a concept of this back then. Characters from any plausible manga could fit into some nen category, all the author did here was divide common abilities into groups and limit what each person could do and learn. I mean, every DBZ character could be reinforcement for instance. Natsu from FT would be transmutation, grey would too, erza would be manipulation, grey from rave would also be manipulation. Naruto characters would be everything but specialization, bleach characters would also have every nen type and a few would even have specialization.

[Tombadgerlock]

Characters in HxH can use more than one group- they just aren't as good in them.

Erza would be materialization though, not manipulation.

[Shinichiro]

Characters in HxH can use more than one group- they just aren't as good in them.

Erza would be materialization though, not manipulation.

Huh, weird. Based on her personality and style, I'd always considered Erza a reinforcement nen-type who makes use of some materialization/manipulation techniques with very specific conditions. You'll note that her weapons always have a purpose. Some reinforce her attack power, others increase her defense against particular types of attacks, etc... Overall, she's a physical brawler who gets extra-boosted from using special abilities--which are the special benefits provided by otherwise normal weapons and armor (normal stuff probably isn't that hard to materialize, all things considered).

One of the awesome things about the nen system is that it truly allows for unique abilities without being ridiculous. After all, abilities are custom matched to the user's personality and the mangaka doesn't stick to generic, broad things like "controls fire" or "controls magnetism". Abilities are specific. It also allows for a much fairer power system. After all, abilities are so conditional that a person rarely wins by being outright stronger inherently, which tends to ruin the power hierarchy of manga as the protagonists must accelerate at ridiculous rates in order to overpower all opponents.

Oh yeah, and lastly, Hunter x Hunter allows for out-of-combat powers. How awesome is that?? I can't think of almost any other series where there are non-combat-heavy superpowers.

About designing our own nen...I think I'd probably be a Materialization or Manipulation type, based on what little I know of myself. Maybe somewhere in-between the two like 90% aptitude in each, since they're close together and I'd guess people rarely fall perfectly on one spot on the pentagram (or was it a hexagram?) scale thing.

As for my ability, I'd like to try something a little...interesting using manipulation (I think, a little vague on exactly what it does) and materialization. I'd like to go for the power to manifest a contact lens which allows me to see exactly what my eye would normally see, only a pre-set amount of time in the past/future. Maybe just the future if the past would be too powerful and unobtainable. Upon putting the contact lens in, I would say a specific time (e.g. 2 hours forward) and from then on until I took it out (or I ran out of nen), I would see exactly what I would have seen out of that eye two hours in the future. If I wanted to fight, I would obviously set it to something more like .2 seconds in the future. Here are the conditions to make it more accessible.

1) I must actually put the contact lens in. No just materializing it on my eyeball or something like that.
2) In order to change the time, I must take the lens out, dematerialize it, materialize another, and put it back in.
3) This is one penalty I haven't fully decided on as it's very tricky, but it might go something like this. If I react in such a way that I change the future and will no longer see the vision that I already saw, the lens dematerializes and I can't use it again for a day. Or maybe for 10x the time difference, haven't decided exactly on that penalty. This means that if I see an attack coming straight towards my face 2 seconds from now and decide to dodge, I better dodge in such a way that I still see that attack coming in two seconds later. So if I see 8 hours later the winning lottery numbers displayed online and the name of the winner next to them, I better go out, buy that lottery number, then reprogram my computer so that it changes my name (the winning name) to the other name on just my computer when I check it later. That way the context may be totally different, but I see the same stuff.

Here are the limitations that make it less powerful and costly than it might seem.
1) I'm badly nearsighted and normally wear contacts or glasses. That means that in order to use this, I would either have to take out the one already there and put a contact in or just always walk around almost blind in one eye.
2) Requires preparation and at least a little time--even at Killua speeds, it would take part of a second to put in a lens, longer while moving.
3) Whole have-to-see-it thing. So if I see someone dying or something, I have 3 choices. A) Rig up a trick so it looks like they're dying from my angle. B) Lose my ability for some time. C) Do nothing
3) Can only see what will be within that eye's field of vision later--no looking around, pausing, etc... Which means I would probably always be looking everywhere like a twitchy crazy person to make sure that I will have seen everything earlier.