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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
So here we have a face off between the two big kidou experts. Which one of the two would win, and why?
i just have a feeling that tessai is gonna be revealed to be able to do some amazing shit.
Well, so far we've seen Tessai just do hadou 88, and the two forbidden techniques (teleportation of a scene, and freezing time), as well as a weaksauce version of bakudou 99 to hold Ichigo down during his hollowification/shinigamification. Hachi has done tons of Bakudou, and tons of barriers too, so we've definitely seen more of Hachi. He also has healing powers. So from what we've seen, Hachi is probably more impressive.
That said, I do think that if Tessai was head of kidou corps. he would be one of the strongest kidou users out there, so my gut tells me that he would win.
tessai hands down ex leader of kido corp and was hachi superior and i assume that maybe the mask increase power but not sure if it increases kido strength could be wrong.
Dunno about this one.... Tessai has shown to be perhaps more combat oriented that hachi IMHO. He has shown a reasonably powered hado and took the explosion from ichigo's hollowification with virtually no damage. On the other hand, hachi has been specifically refered to as NOT being fit for combat. His kido consists of barriers and defensive techniques along with healing. His orihime-ish powers also have virtually no offensive capacities even though apparently the barriers made by it cannot be broken by shinigami kido. He also has a hollow mask which should give him quite a powerboost -even though he has virtually no firepower. Worth noting, tessai has performed consecutive chantless 99 bakudo's while in the TBPA hachi performed 1 99 bakudo and showed signs of it wearing him down.
I would think tessai has vastly superior combat capacities in comparison to hachi but in turn if hachi's barriers are immune to shinigami kido then perhaps he has a chance of sealing tessai away.
On another vaguely related note, hachi strikes me as the type to pack a mean cero.
Tessai wins. The difference between a captain and a VC is clear. Even with mask they are still trash compared to a captain. Tessai seems to focus on destructive spells while hacchi uses barriers.
1. I think the mask is overrated. The vizard's mask seems to me to focus more on defense. But about speed and strength, it is not really a big factor
2. Can u see hachi holding a sword and attacking? lol
if hachi can put a barrier to defend than quickly attack with his sword be dangerous really..but cant imagine the lil marshmallow using a sword.
the mask does increase some aspects alot than people assume but as tessai was his boss i cant see the gap in power been closed coz of it
1. LOL look at the pink barney charge with a sword haha. i don't think hacchi is very fast. Tessai seems more agile. As i have said b4, the difference between a VC and a captain is HUGE!!
2. The reason i think the mask is overrated b/c i have heard people say things from the mask is better than bankai or that it increases your strength by 5x and all this other bull. I think the boost from the mask is quite small
this applies. IF shinigami kido is really useless against hachi's barriers then tessai would not have a chance of breaking them with his own kido. He'd have to rely either of sheer brute strength or some other raw power and even that'd be doubtful in this case. Hachi's barrier being orihime-ish in many ways give me the impression of having a certain, say, depth to them which shinigami kido altogether lacks and most likely altogether cannot achieve. Other than that, given tessai's physical built and what little we have seen of his offensive capacities and resilience, it is pretty clear tessai is altogether built to be a much better fighter than hachi. As for how the mask would affect hachi and his kido, I would think it does help. Putting on a mask provides a boost in reiatsu as we have seen a few times. That means hachi would get more reiatsu to put into his barriers which makes them more powerful.
As for the vizard's mask, I don't consider it to be as powerful as the hollowification the espada went through but I also doubt the boost is small or negligible. For one thing, hiyori and liza who were former VCs were able to keep up with harribel. I doubt such a thing would be possible without a considerable boost. Mashiro went from kicking WW to get severely beaten up just because the mask was removed.
^^ That is hacchi's own assessment which i will take with a grain of salt. Being able to block out all shinigami kido doesn't seem believable to me. if that is true, is hacchi going to put a barrier around himself and just stay there? He has to attack to win. Mask or not, a VC is not close to their captain counterpart
As for the mask, the mask don't impress me much. The most it has done is provided some resistance. The boost in speed and power is only seen most prevalent w/ ichigo. And hiyori didn't do anything against halibel if i can remember. And lisa had a short skirmish, and after a battle w/ hitsu, i am sure she must be worn out pretty much. As for mashiro, her hits didn't even hurt WW. It was her speed that gave her the edge
Was hachigeneral the only one that voted for Hachi?
In all seriousness, Tessai would win. Hachi has grown strong, with his mask and hax 4 prong bakudo techniques, but as everyone has said, Tessai was a former captain. The captain will always be superior to the subordinate. Always