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what i think would be extremely cool is what if naruto transforms into the kyubi and then goes into sage mode! the fox already has human like features, such as his hands. if he has those hands, it should enable him to perform jutsus. imagine the ninetails in sage mode performing a rasenshuriken!!!
I hope for kyuubi sage mode because it would put an end to this tailed cloak and full transformations which i hate i think it would be cooler for him to be in sage fox eyes but still human in my opinion that would be cooler than a giant fox fighting ninjas
you make it sound like sitting still is like doing nothing. Those are very different things, Even as sitting still he was doing chakra balance, which is difficult by itself since he has a 4 elements to consider instead of 3, physical energy, spirtual energy, fox's chakra and nature energy.
He has honed the mastery of controlling / balancing these 3 elements (3, physical energy, spirtual energy). That's the main reason why he Naruto sucked at balancing chakra before, its because of the fox chakra, as stated in the manga.
I believe Naruto is at genius level as well like his father (4th hokage). Genius level at both hard-work and innate talent. It was always the fox that made Naruto's life a mess. Before he sucks at shadow clone jutsu, but later it became his main arsenal, he's probably one of the best using it.
So my point is, the sage training, its not just sitting still. It's the culmination of handwork and innate talent Naruto has. And I don't believe Sakura can even come close in mastering Sage Justu if she has the fox chakra disrupting her always. She's probably on a rampage, because she could be easily overwhelmed by the Kyubi.
Like Yamato said, Naruto was special having been able to suppress Kyubi. But like I said, its not just being special, its also because of hard-work. Without training even a genius would fall upon prey to a stupid counterpart.
Also the fact that Kyubi, is living inside Naruto, Naruto's own body as a host. Then by no means, he owns Kyubi! and whatever kyubi has, Naruto owns it as well.
It's like having a castle, the castle being your own domain, you own everything. From the soldiers to the maids. You can easily commandeer your troops to conquer a new land or whatever. Since you own the soldiers, it is your power. That's why a king is supreme. In Naruto's sense, he's currently battling, who own's the body, who is king, if Naruto succeed, then he can command / take over Kyubi's power as his own, ergo he owns kyubi.
I see a lot of people disliking the cloaks but no one is understanding the purpose it gives Naruto. While he will be facing Sasuke who has the best defense since Itachi, it gives Naruto a great defense also, the cloaks comes with jutsu too.
Naruto without the cloak would suck, it would just be like 0tails, he would gain speed, power and enhanced jutsu but that sage mode. The cloaks are the amount of power released.
The kyuubi is Naruto's birth right just like Sasuke's sharingan. After this battle the kyuubi's chakra will be his own so he's not leaching anymore, it's an extending of his own power. Also sage mode isn't his own power he is using the power of the air and ground.
kyubi + sage= naruto has become the most powerful being, with the most chakra character currently existing in the naruto universe.
but naruto is still susceptible to a gengutsu of uchiha power. remember that killer bee was saved by his partner the hachibi helping him against sasukes tsukiyomi. at the end of chapter 499 kyubi said i wont forget this naruto thereby implying that he's going to get even.
lets not forget that inorder to get out of tsukiyomi naruto needs the kyubis to disrupt the casters genjutsu (tsukiyomi).
I want the kyubi form to represent.
Sorry but I loved his transformations, especially the added abilities it gave him (fox cloak hands are awesome).
I would be happy with some form of red pulsing chakra he could control to some extent with some of the bones from his transformation during the pain arc on his body. kinda like bone armor.
The cloak is not a result of giving into the beasts hate, B uses the cloaks to and he's not giving into hate. If anything these last few chapters have shown that he and the beast have no hate towards each other. There will be transformations for Naruto but he will now be in control. The only thing I fear is that he will loose the edge of the cloak it's self acting on it's own like in VotE fight where the chakra creates an arm and acts independent of Naruto. That gave him an advantage over the sharingan which was trying to track and predict his movements. True the higher end transformations usually result in huge one-shot attacks ment to end fights but with FRS and Kirin it's pretty much the same thing without transformations now so what's the difference? The sage/kyuubi mix formation was the best yet and showed Naruto in full control of his actions, I'm hoping we see more of that in the future.
remember all the stone frogs at the mountain??? those were all people who tried and failed at the sage arts... so sage training tho it looks simple in fact is the hardest training in the manga....
The fox is narutos birth right... he was left with no parents, and was shuned by his entire village... he endured countless years alone being hated by his entire village becuz of the fox.. now u wna turn around and say its unfair for naruto to use his power??? Or call it leechin??? well its only fair, bcuz of the fox narutos childhood was a disaster, he deserves every ounce of the kyuubis power... its HIS power.. the beast lives within him, burdens HIS life... the least the fox could do is give him his power, and he had to take it for himself, tho his mother help'd... sasuke has had more help in power boost, oro (cursed mark) itachi (ameretsu) and madara (itachis eyes) pfff emo boy is the real leech!!
Last edited by TheBeastWithin; July 01, 2010 at 12:45 AM.
Ok, so let me get this straight... a few of you seem to think that Naruto is a leech for using the Kyubi... That he has not earned that power... So then the fact that he has suffered and been alone for most of his life for being one of few people left on the planet, as explained by his mother, with chakra even capable of suppressing the Kyubi... A monster exponentially more powerful than all other bijuu... Keeping it safely tucked away in his own body, not giving into his situation and hating the rest of the world for it (which is more or less what Sasuke did)... Only releasing it's power in the most dire of circumstances and usually for a friend's sake... all means nothing? None of this counts as "hard work" or blood, sweat and tears? You're saying he didn't earn this power though he's paid for it his whole life... by losing his family along with the possibility of acceptance by his village. That having to basically prove himself at every turn to every person almost ever in his life isn't enough of a sacrifice. You want him to what... lift weights? Oh wait, if he was born with it or it didn't have a will of his own then it wouldn't be leeching?
If in reality a man swallowed a bolt of lightning and then fried things by shooting electricity out of his ass that would make him incredible for doing the impossible because he should have died from being struck by lightning!!! That's Naruto's bloodline, doing the impossible against all odds!!! He's conquered a freaking force of nature by shear will alone!!! His bloodline and chakra were enough to keep it in check on their own but his will and hard work lead him to where he is now, which is in charge of one of the most potent and large bodies of chakra in his entire universe!!! Stop this leech talk BS...
IMHO I hope he still rocks the tails in one form or another, a clear shroud like the 8 tails with the sage mode keeping his skin from burning off would be cool... Then he could do that whole swallowing a ball of hyper chakra mouth cannon jutsu on his own and obliterate Susanoo in the blink of an eye. Or maybe he could just sit still and send his chakras out to kick Sasuke's ass on their own, like Kage bunshins made of just chakra (sage and kyubi) that could reshape themselves on the fly when attacked instead of going "poof". I liked the look he had with the spiral seals and flaming shroud, if he looked like that with the cross sage mode/kyubi eyes from the Nagato confrontation (I can't call it a fight) I would love that!!!
Please keep the discussion within normal parameters, it would be a shame for this thread to transform into Sasuke/Naruto bashing
Thanks a lot