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    Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    I was just rereading the arc and I can't believe I missed it, but now I'm as certain about this as I am of Kuma telling Rayleigh a secret.

    http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/574/12-13/

    "Luffy I want you to listen to what I say right now ... and tell it to the guys afterwards." - Ace

    I thought he was just saying his goodbyes but now I think he is revealing a giant plot related secret.

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    I think you on to something. The way of Luffys face when Ace says it and how he continues to say "and Luffy" afterwards hints on it being something more then just a goodbye.
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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    am i stupid.............because i have no idea what you guys are talking about

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    Now that you mention it, that is rather intriguing.
    This is what I imagine it to be "Everything is going according to plan", or, "Shanks is the future you...", or "I am your father".

    Seriously though...any ideas? Must be something that will be quite significant in the future.

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoLimit89 View Post
    "Luffy I want you to listen to what I say right now ... and tell it to the guys afterwards." - Ace

    I thought he was just saying his goodbyes but now I think he is revealing a giant plot related secret.
    What he wants to say to Luffy and to get repeated afterwards to the guys are his thanks! for loving him. I can't read about secrets revealed... maybe there's one, but it doesn't seem to me from these words.

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    Mangastream's translation sort of indicating the opposite,
    onemanga's and mangashare's sort of leaving it in the middle.

    I personally think Ace's talking about sharing the line about "why was I born for ?,"
    and his own answer for it, to the rest of the priates. But yeah, it's that one panel
    with Luffy going " ...!? " that makes it looks like Ace has said something behind the
    panel...

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    You should edit the topic title, not everyone knows about Ace's death. The title is a major spoiler.

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    i thought he told him to tell everyone thank you wasnt that it .
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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    So within "....." in Ace's goodbye speech you guys are expecting some sort of a secret dying message? Am I getting this thread right?

    Those "..." are pattern of breaks within his speech. He didn't had the strength to speak fluently without breaks. Since his internal organs were burned to freaking toast.
    Last edited by BlackHair; May 10, 2010 at 03:50 PM.

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman-Spiff View Post
    You should edit the topic title, not everyone knows about Ace's death. The title is a major spoiler.
    Well since it was quite some time ago I think the title is ok since you need to show the people who wants to discuss what this spoiler is all about.

    On topic:
    I also don't think that he said something of importance except his goodbye. With anything else his goodbye would lose it's drive
    I think the important thing Ace mentioned is Sabo. First when I saw him I thought that he could have died and Ace promised to live on but recently I got on the train "Sabo might live and might have fled".

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    I totally missed that!!
    Great find!!!

    I know that Kuma said something to Rayleigh.
    It was the last time that Kuma was seen as a human (before he really became a machine), so he did what he could to change the world (helped the strawhats escape and told a secret to Rayleigh).

    And, it really does seem like Ace said something to Luffy!

    For those who doesn't see what we're talking about, look at the lowest-right corner.
    On that panel, Ace say : "Luffy, listen to what I have to say and tell the others afterward".
    On the next panel, we don't hear what Ace say, but we see Luffy's reaction (!!)

    The simple fact that he says "Tell the others", means that he only told him...
    So I doubt that it is the "Thanks" that he yelled to everyone.

    It would be a lot better (plot-wise) if it was a secret.

    I guess we will see a flashback of that scene once Luffy straight up his mind, and we will learn the secret that Ace told Luffy.
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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    Uhhh...let me quote cnet's translation:

    http://mangahelpers.com/t/cnet128/releases/19780
    Quote Originally Posted by cnet 574 translation
    Ace: ...Just like... we promised back then... / I have no regrets... about how I lived my life...!!
    Luffy: .........No!! You're lying!!
    Ace: *pant*... *pant*... No, it's true......!! // ...It looks like what I really wanted in the end... // ...wasn't fame or renown at all... // ...It was an answer to the question...
    Luffy: !
    Ace: ...of whether I should have... been born. // ......*pant*... My voice... is getting too quiet... / ......Luffy, I want you to listen to what I say now...... / ...and tell it to the guys... afterwards...
    Luffy: ......
    Ace: .........!! Old man.........!!! // All you guys......!!! // And... // ...Luffy......
    Luffy: !
    Flashback!Ace: Get out here! I'm here to take the head... / ...of Whitebeard!!
    Whitebeard: ...............!!
    Ace: Even though I've been good for nothing my whole life...
    Marco: *pant*...... *pant*...
    Ace: Even though I carry the blood of a demon within me......!!
    Flashback!People: Ace~~~~~! We're gonna save you, no matter what! // Don't you dare give up~~~~~!!

    14-15
    Ace: You guys still loved me... // ...Thank you so much...!!!
    Pirates: !!! // Ace......!!
    Luffy: !
    If you think that in the small ellipses Ace left, amongst the enormous amount of ellipses that occured in this chapter, that Ace told Luffy some enormous secret, I cannot agree with you.

    He mentions his voice getting quiet, asks Luffy to pass on his dying will message of "Thank you so much" whilst also giving that message to Luffy.

    There's no secret here.

    Luffy goes "!" because he was clinging on to the hope that Ace would pull through. Tell me if you ever have a chat to someone when they're dying and they say "These are my last words" and you don't perk up and listen with a "!" above your head. If you don't, you're asleep.

    Geez you guys read into things too much. Is this going to go the same way as the "Pirate Summit"?

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    I don't think you read the chapter.
    http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/574/14-15/
    Here is the secret lol

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    @kkck - But, why would that be what he said to Luffy, if he is just going to say it to everyone anyway?
    Why would Ace tell Luffy something and ask him to tell it to everybody else, when that is exactly what he did himself? Just a waste of panels?

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    Re: Ace tells a major secret to Luffy upon his death.

    That's what I thought the first time I read the chapter as well ^^^, the whole Ace must be just saying goodbye to Luffy.

    However, the defining panel is the bottom middle panel.

    (EDIT)
    http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece...4/page012.html

    Especially when Ace said "AND ...".

    He told Luffy the secret and now he's ready to say "thank you so much".

    Besides, Ace is older than Luffy and has been with WB's crew for a while, he is bound to know something about the world that WB's crew knows and some old timers know that the common people doesn't know. If Ace knew ANYTHING, that was the only time he can share it with Luffy.
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