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Thread: The Technique Opinion Thread!

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    The Technique Opinion Thread!

    I want to know which techniques in Bleach you like, and which you don't like. They can be zanpakto techniques, kido techniques or miscellaneous techniques.

    I like hado number 4. It is very easy to cast, and infinitely more useful than the bigger ones. The best example was when in the middle of a sword fight, Byakuya uses it to poke a hole in Ichigo's shoulder.

    I also like the bakudo number 30, the triple fang thing that Soi fon used. This time, simply because it looks cool.

    Koten Zanshun is another of my favourites, only because the method that it uses it very unique. Tsubaki actually creates a shield that looks like a bullet and then does the same thing as Orhime's healing ability and rejects everything that is around it. Rather than destroying what it hits, it makes it so that it simply doesn't exist. There are so many useful things it could do.

    And finally, Pesche's infinite slick. Everything about this move is awesome. What fictional character has ever had a super move, the sole purpose of which was lubrication. This is the kind of genius that sets kubo apart from the rest.

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    What I dislike are generic energy bursts, with different colours and different names. Like the infinite cero types, the random blue and red and yellow hado's, the zanpakto's that all seem to have that ranged energy blast move etc. etc.

    I also dislike Hitsu's snow thing. Whenever you have a discussion about Hitsu's fights, it always ends up at his snow thing. It is like he is a regular captain, with decent moves, until he pulls out his snow thing and all of a sudden he can beat everyone. Most of the time, people just ignore Hitsu all together and have the fights about so and so versus hitsu's snow thing.

    I also dislike respira. Like the snow thing, it has become the dominant move of its user, and it is way too absolute to be included in a manga like this. It was generally a bad idea on Kubo's part to create this move and I am glad that he got rid of it. The only way it could ever work would be if it belonged to a side character who was on the side of nobody (kind of like Seshomaru's bakusaiga, which seems to do the same thing).
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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    As far as kido is concerned, I like just about every bakudou, and Black Coffin.

    IMO bakudo are underrated. They could be difference between hitting with a winning and losing. Not only can bakudo protect the user from strong attacks, but they also can restrain the opponent, allowing the user to hit with a powerful technique.

    Level 90's spells like Black coffin are extremely powerful. It's able to take out a captain level shinigami at less than 1/3 of it's power. Another thing is it surrounds the opponent on all sides so there's no escape.


    - Komumura's bankai is pretty interesting and also underrated in my opinion. With it's size and armor it would most likely take an extremely powerful attack to take it down. It's reach, speed and power are also impressive. Komumura can fight at any range with his bankai and take out most opponent's in one blow. Considering it's speed and it's reach there's no getting away from it, for most opponents. Fighting against it would be tricky.
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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    BUTOU RENJIN:
    _Imagine those green lasers that are in the clubs...they spreed like a cone and can cover a huge circle(area) at the end of their reach.
    _Gin in position to fire Butou Renjin...each thrust doesn't loose power in the distance.
    _Number of thrust??unknown,plausible very high seeing the image and knowing his crazy speed.

    Apply this premises to his technique,if the seconds he fire all those thrust,the tip of his sword cover just an angle of 10 degrees....how HUGE would be the volume of the attack???how huge would be the circle/area after 50/100/500 meters....to think big...after 1,3, km...at 13 km???if the angle become 20,30,40 degree and there is a crazy number of thrust,can u picture how many instantaneous thrust would cover a crazily huge area?????

    Notice also that in all this craziness,differently from energy blast,his power won't loose effectiviness with the distance....

    IMPRESSIVE!!!
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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    Starrks Wolf Pack. Utterly nasty technique. Regening wolves that keep on coming no matter what, a few being enough to pretty much waste two vizards. All while the user can just kick back and watch.

    Gin's Gatling move is pretty nasty too, provided the enemy stays in front.

    Hitsugaya's snow move is also pretty damn hard to beat, though things get pretty nasty if he loses control. I suppose that's all I pretty much care for though. The others range from alright to meh.

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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    Oh yeah, forgot kido. Hado 91 was pretty intriguing in itself. I'm also rather fond of 88... and if you break out Bakudo 81 at the right moment it becomes an epic counter to a majority of those hado.

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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    Gin's gatling is impressive because all he needs to do is turn his body to reach any fighter that try to dodge on the side...
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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    Unlikely, not without putting himself offbalance. If he could use it normally sure, that'd be the case, but his stance implies that said technique creates nasty recoil.

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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    The technique Momo used against Harribel's fraccion was impressive. That's the first time kido was used like that in the series. By using kido in combination she's able to create a completely different effect, that would be hard to deal with. How would you prepare for something you've never seen before.

    It's too bad Momo is dead if she matured and trained I think she would eventually have the potential to be a captain.

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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    Gin has just to turn his body around to mantain it like some athlets do:ex hammer throw and disc throw...

    Beside that,having your hand to your chest while u fire with a machine gun isn't really a balanced position to counter a recoil...
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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    I like kidou, especially when its accompanied by a long, poetic incantation.
    I like Hachi's kidou. Urahara's recent display was also pretty awesome.

    As for zanpakutou techniques.....I love Rukia's techniques. All three of them.
    I like Suzumebachi, Wabisuke, Senbonzakura, Ashisogi Jizou, Katen Kyokotsu.

    Arrancar techniques.....
    Stark's cero guns are awesome.

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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    Quote Originally Posted by Yans86 View Post
    Gin has just to turn his body around to mantain it like some athlets do:ex hammer throw and disc throw...

    Beside that,having your hand to your chest while u fire with a machine gun isn't really a balanced position to counter a recoil...
    He's compressing the hilt against his chest while supporting the handle two handed, thumbs, from what I can tell, Inward (the back of his hand being above the hilt). Granted I don't quite know the physics behind such a thing (A sword type of shape is ridiculously bad for a gun design, same vice versa for this very reason), but if I had to hazard a guess, I would say that's the simplest way to get support for recoil. Hell, it even looks like he's feeling it when it fires out (though given that may be perspective and wow factor that's up for grabs).

    If the recoil is not why he's changing stance, I can't possibly imagine why the hell he would even need to change his stance in the first place. The position he's in makes it outright awkward for any sort of swordplay if the enemy get's close, and the precious seconds it would take to get it to a better position would be seconds your opponent could be using to cut your head off.

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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    Probably he changed his stance because this is the way the technique is portrayed,usually when u shot with a gun or something bigger u have to extend your arms and lower your centre of gravity...Gin isn't doing any of that and his position would be actually bad if he has such a recoil,anyway I think that next chapter is going to be more clear :-D
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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    No, guns with any serious recoil are generally shaped so that you can support them with your shoulder area (hence why the way you grip it tends to be so far up) and what he's doing there is pretty much as good as you can get for your center of gravity for something of that nature. There's a reason why I said something of that shape is bad for this sort of thing, the hit's too small to do crap with support wise, and you can't grip the blade without shaving something off. Only way you could do better than what he's trying is if you back up to a wall or lie down on the ground and do it supported from like your shoulder or something(Though the small size of the hilt kinda screws you over for that one).

    Seriously if it's not the recoil he has no reason to change his stance at all. You don't just change stance to portray a technique, not if you could just do it any old way. That'd be pretty stupid. Well, save in cases where said 'technique' is a particularly motion or whatever, which is clearly not the case here. He should be able to rapid fire from any position. He'll, he'd been doing it too. Albeit not that much.

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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    Even if the recoil is low u have to extend your arms really firm,or that small recoil won't let u hit your target...

    U can make an experiment:
    _put your hands on the chest,stand completely like Gin is doing,put your feets parallels one to the other then try to oppose somene pushin u...is it easy to stand firmly like Gin is doing??
    _try the same thing extending your arms in front and putting one leg behind,u should notice a big difference in stability and u won't get pushed back easily...

    The stance is oftena trademark for a technique like saying its name even if it is unneeded.We see it all the times :-D in this case Butou and Butou Renjin...
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    Re: The Technique Opinion Thread!

    Uh, anyone could tell you just holding your weapon out like that when it's going wild (Also like that) causes an increase in the likelihood of it jerking out of your arms. I don't think you quite know what you're talking about there. Hence his stance and grip on the blade is compensating for both that by keeping the arms tense close up to the body, thereby having a hard grip from two sides, and the jerking backwards, by supporting with his chest.

    Similarly the point of Butou Renji is that the repeated thrusts do go all over the place. Loosing aim like you're describing there isn't the problem, it's the knock back. You know, kind of like it looks like on the page. That's far, far easier to compensate for when standing still like he is as opposed to otherwise.

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