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Singles Tier List
Only characters that had at least one match (or currently have one) are to be ranked. For Doubles, only players that played together before may be ranked.
Concerning the Tier Lists for Prefecturals, Tokyo, Kanto and Nationals, the above criteria apply to the given time frame.
Last edited by Kaoz; June 18, 2014 at 02:20 AM.
Although I still think its too soon to say Ochi might not be great at Singles. I think he is pretty good. There must be a reason why he is No.9 and Muuri is No.10.
Like how Niou was No.15 while Oishi was No.16, I think it was due to the higher Singles player getting the higher badge between the pair.
---------- Post added February 12, 2012 at 07:09 AM ---------- Previous post was February 09, 2012 at 03:51 PM ----------
As it stands.
Ochi is actually above Mouri simply coz he is No.9 and Mouri is No.10.
I still believe that Date was No.12 and Ban was No.13 because Date was better.
Taira was No.18 and Hara was No.19 coz Taira was slightly better.
Same reason why Niou got the No.15 instead of Oishi.
Like I said before, since Ochi/Mouri arent Synchro users, what makes them higher level Doubles players than Mutsu/Mutsu is their individual abilities.
Which is why a Yukimura/Sanada pair would blitz any Synchro pair of Niou/Oishi, Oishi/Kikumaru, Mutsu/Mutsu, Mutsu/Niou, Washio/Suzuki or any other Synchro users. Its down to the individual ablities of Yukimura and Sanada that nobody would stand a chance so I believe Ochi will soon reveal to be as awesome or better than Mouri.
We can confirm that Tohno is above Mouri and Ochi in Singles and Doubles it seems (Depending on if Tohno really can effectively pair with Kimijima) and that he is WELL above Hakamada.
I don't really believe that synchro ends the discussion with the mutsu's and ochi-mouri because primarily there must be a reason for the rank disparity, and synchro certainly aids a doubles team however synchro only it the players using it, and if there is a disparity in ability great enough then synchro might not matter like airgrimes said. I happen to think that niou/atobe would galactically rock the mutsu's primarily because they can't deal with atobe kingdom, they may or may not be capable of dealing with zero shiki serve or tezuka phantom. Even tezuka zone in doubles would be beastly because it is basically an automatically successful poach and even with synchro, dealing with atobe's rondo/cool drive shots continuously in my opinion would be too much for the twins.
Synchro isn't the only thing that matters in doubles discussion and pairs with synchro don't automatically beat all pairs that don't have synchro.
Just given by the little interaction we've seen between them, Ochi and Mouri probably aren't a Synchro Type, but rather an Equal Footing Type. And Kimijima/Tohno are very likely to be a Leader Follower Type.
And yes. The twins said that, however Ochi and Mouri are likely not Synchro users which is why I will say again:
Individually, Ochi and Mouri must be really strong since they are above Mutsu/Mutsu without even having Synchro.
Leader Follower type? Can we get another example in the series like that? Im not too sure what you mean here. Is Oishi/Kikumaru an example of that?
I also still believe that Ochi will reveal to be above Mouri to explain why Ochi got the No.9 badge. I believe in Doubles in this series, the one with the higher badge is the one who is stronger in Singles EXCLUDING Momoshiro Takeshi and Oshitari Kenya pair.
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Furthermore, considering Kawamura has displayed control over the Hadoukyu's doesnt that make he and Ishida Gin the same level now?
I'm just thinking that Kawamura/Kabaji are a stronger pair than the Mutsu twins. And yeah, since Kawamura can control the Hadoukyuu styles, he is in the same level as Gin right now. That's some beastly improvement he made in such a short amount of time considering he could only hit a Dash Hadoukyuu that equals the first style.
Actually, I could just link the relevant page...
Precisely. Since Synchro has so far been shown as absolute and can only be defeated with Synchro, the fact that Ochi/Mouri and ?Tohno/Kimijima? are above Mutsu/Mutsu tells you that their individual abilities are extremely high.[/QUOTE]
How do you guys know that Tohno is a doubles player?
Granted Gin didn't become any stronger, which he did.Quote:
I once theorized (this was many months ago now) that all of the top 10 were singles players, and they just banded together to play doubles as necessary and to create advantageous match ups against opponents.
Tohno definitely appears to be quite competent as a singles player, as he viewed Hakamada as trash, but it's much, much more likely that he's a doubles player than that he plays singles.
Granted Gin didn't become any stronger, which he did.[/QUOTE]
I dont know that Tohno is a doubles player. Its likely he is like Most players in the series who play both Singles and Doubles.
Then a High Schooler would have mentioned that they are Synchro users. When Irie was being revealed, they had Oni talk about him in Irie VS Atobe.
If they were Synchro users, members of the camp would say so.
Are you saying Gin became stronger? We cant confirm he became much stronger. Same with Kikumaru, unfortunately the great Fuji, Jirou, Hirakoba, Amane and several other players we have no idea if they have considerably improved or just kinda improved.
Im guessin Gin just kinda improved and that Konomi has always wanted to underline Kawamura as the best Middle School Power Player since Pair Puri Vol.1 even calls him the No.1 Power Player.
Also, Hirakoba is below Ishida. G, but well above Kawamura.
Just realized I refuse to accept Ishida above Kaidoh.
And I was wrong about Jackal > Kawamura.
Now that Kawamura can hit a range of Hadoukyus, I see Kawamura defeating Ishida again. Its likely Ishida is too high.
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Kawamura, Kenya and Gin, Yushi and Kaidoh.
Really and truly, how would you order those 5?
Since I believe Yushi is really strong.
And that Gin is only Kawamura level.
Last edited by Airgrimes; February 16, 2012 at 03:11 PM.
Of those 5, I think Kaidoh is the strongest, I would put them like this
I don't see Kaidoh losing to Yushi, Kawamura and Gin, considering he has more power, speed and stamina now.
I'll be going with