Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

[Brandnewkid]

Tanishi was just fodder, he only had Big Bang and Carioca Step. Anyway, if wonder if we get to see a match like that. Maybe in the genius 10 arc, if Duke it's a power player judging his appearance, we might get a match between him and another player that isn't power type like Yukimura or Fuji.

Tanishi wasn't just fodder.

What's your definition of fodder, exactly? I see you toss that word around a lot.

[LetalHawk]

Tanishi wasn't just fodder.

What's your definition of fodder, exactly? I see you toss that word around a lot.

After his match with Ryoma, he appeared again? What's his role in the storyline? That's why he's fodder, a player Ryoma defeated and then we never saw him back in action.

However, he received some screentime in Shin, but still, I doubt we'll see him again for a while.

[Brandnewkid]

After his match with Ryoma, he appeared again? What's his role in the storyline? That's why he's fodder, a player Ryoma defeated and then we never saw him back in action.

He helped Ryoma regain his memory in time for the final match. By your logic, I'm pretty sure a lot of other characters would be fodder, as well.

However, he received some screentime in Shin, but still, I doubt we'll see him again for a while.

What, the guy lost some serious weight and gained some major hang-time, not to mention that he can hit more than one ball.

[Fayte]

Let me jump in here to say Tanishi is fodder in my eyes, but he may still have screentime in the future.

[LetalHawk]

He got screentime, but Konomi isn't going to make Tanishi one of the "important" characters. For me, it's just fodder. Even if he can hit 4 balls and improved, many players would wipe him.

[-Ken-]

He got screentime, but Konomi isn't going to make Tanishi one of the "important" characters. For me, it's just fodder. Even if he can hit 4 balls and improved, many players would wipe him.

Of course many players would wipe him. And it's the same with other players in the series. It's heavily suggested in the manga that 2nd court get 6-0 by the loser court. That includes Tanishi. And remember how some matches in 3rd court vs 5th court go? Tanishi from that logic is way stronger than you give him credit for.

But I can see Konomi just going with his unstable power ranking again, anyhow.

[Airgrimes]

Of course many players would wipe him. And it's the same with other players in the series. It's heavily suggested in the manga that 2nd court get 6-0 by the loser court. That includes Tanishi. And remember how some matches in 3rd court vs 5th court go? Tanishi from that logic is way stronger than you give him credit for.

But I can see Konomi just going with his unstable power ranking again, anyhow.

That bugs me too. 3rd and 2nd Court. It was meant to be there was a big gap between the 2, but 2nd Court dont seem a whole level above 3rd Court. Instead they seem the same level or below.
Unless, the Black Jersey Brigade Singles'd against all 8 member of 2nd Court.
Ignoring the nonsense in the anime, we have: Sanada, Tooyama, Ryoma, Niou, Kawamura, Momoshiro, Kaidoh, Yanagi with those 8 in Singles they would definetely be above 2nd Court in each match... Oh well, I also feel Konomi is sometimes unstable with his power ranking at times.

Tanishi was just fodder, he only had Big Bang and Carioca Step. Anyway, if wonder if we get to see a match like that. Maybe in the genius 10 arc, if Duke it's a power player judging his appearance, we might get a match between him and another player that isn't power type like Yukimura or Fuji.

This is more than we were given from MOST players in the series. So I wouldnt use that as to prove why he was fodder. He is fodder coz he was dropped from the storyline, not coz of his abilities.

List of those made fodder by abilities due to not being shown having a technique:
Miyako Shinobu, Zaizen Hikaru, Amane Hikaru, Chinen Hiroshi, Kadowaki Satoru, Akiba Koyo, Takei Toshio, Tenjin Kosuke, Hirari Tonpei, Junichi Sasabe, Minami Kentaro, Higashikata Masami.

What, the guy lost some serious weight and gained some major hang-time, not to mention that he can hit more than one ball.

He is now a lot stronger I agree. Would love to see him in a match. There are a lot of MSer fodder I would like to see in action tbh.

[Fayte]

This is more than we were given from MOST players in the series. So I wouldnt use that as to prove why he was fodder. He is fodder coz he was dropped from the storyline, not coz of his abilities.

No, he is fodder because he is basically just a fat and gimp version of Kite. Why have Tanishi when you have someone who has the same techniques, does them better, and looks cooler? Fodder.

[Airgrimes]

No, he is fodder because he is basically just a fat and gimp version of Kite. Why have Tanishi when you have someone who has the same techniques, does them better, and looks cooler? Fodder.

Crap, I forgot that Kite has Big Bang too. Yeah, the moment we saw Kite, Tanishi was fodderized.
But as I was saying, saying he only has Big Bang and Carioca Step helps in the argument that he wasnt fodder. He was given a better move set than most lol.

[Kaoz]

Unless, the Black Jersey Brigade Singles'd against all 8 member of 2nd Court.
Ignoring the nonsense in the anime, we have: Sanada, Tooyama, Ryoma, Niou, Kawamura, Momoshiro, Kaidoh, Yanagi with those 8 in Singles they would definetely be above 2nd Court in each match... Oh well, I also feel Konomi is sometimes unstable with his power ranking at times.

If you're going with this assumption, they should win in a normal match order too without too much trouble. You have Ryoma, Kintarou and Sanada as singles and Yanagi/Inui and some other random combination (Niou with a lot of people, Momo/Kenya, Momo/Kaidou etc.) as doubles.

[Airgrimes]

If you're going with this assumption, they should win in a normal match order too without too much trouble. You have Ryoma, Kintarou and Sanada as singles and Yanagi/Inui and some other random combination (Niou with a lot of people, Momo/Kenya, Momo/Kaidou etc.) as doubles.

I didnt think of that either. I guess in that form 2nd Court stood a tiny chance. In fact, no chance.
Since 4 out of the 5 encounters are definetes w/out us having to think about it lol. for D2 Niou/Oishi is another combo.

As a matter of fact, BJB would have crushed 3rd Court before they reached Singles 1 now that you reminded me of the standard form.
S3 - Sanada Genichiro VS Nakagauchi Sotomichi - Score LOL
D2 - Niou Masaharu/Most Players VS Matsudaira Chikahiko/Miyako Shinobu - Score Im not sure
S2 - Tooyama Kintaro VS Yamato Yuudai - Score 6-3/4 since Tezuka only won 6-4 w/out TMnK.
D1 - Yanagi Renji/Inui Sadaharu VS Washio Issa/Suzuki Shun - Score - No idea but I expect the data guys to contain synchro?
S1 - Echizen Ryoma VS Irie Kanata - Score 7-6 (Due to plot power of Ryoma never losing an official match).

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In short, although Konomi didnt portray it too well, when you think about it thoroughly, its clear that BJB meant business upon their return and would have eaten both 3rd Court and 2nd Court alive. Excluding Troll!Irie since it wouldnt reach S1.

[Kaoz]

I didnt think of that either. I guess in that form 2nd Court stood a tiny chance. In fact, no chance.
Since 4 out of the 5 encounters are definetes w/out us having to think about it lol. for D2 Niou/Oishi is another combo.

As a matter of fact, BJB would have crushed 3rd Court before they reached Singles 1 now that you reminded me of the standard form.
S3 - Sanada Genichiro VS Nakagauchi Sotomichi - Score LOL
D2 - Niou Masaharu/Most Players VS Matsudaira Chikahiko/Miyako Shinobu - Score Im not sure
S2 - Tooyama Kintaro VS Yamato Yuudai - Score 6-3/4 since Tezuka only won 6-4 w/out TMnK.
D1 - Yanagi Renji/Inui Sadaharu VS Washio Issa/Suzuki Shun - Score - No idea but I expect the data guys to contain synchro?
S1 - Echizen Ryoma VS Irie Kanata - Score 7-6 (Due to plot power of Ryoma never losing an official match).

You could just switch D1 and D2 and it should be definite wins for the BJB. Inui and Yanagi don't need to be able to react to Flower as long as they have the data and Niou/Oishi beat the twins who were above Washio/Suzuki.

EDIT: Or rather, given Inui against Twist Serve back in the days they still need a certain amount of skill to return Flower, but they should have that at that point.

[Brandnewkid]

No, he is fodder because he is basically just a fat and gimp version of Kite. Why have Tanishi when you have someone who has the same techniques, does them better, and looks cooler? Fodder.

No. Kite and Tanishi are clearly different characters. Kite's just the leader of the Higa tennis team and was put on par with Tezuka.

If you want to say that Tanishi is fodder because someone else has his moves, then that would probably make Jiro fodder, because his God-sent volleys were heavily inspired by Bunta. That'd also mean Shiraishi is more or less fodder because of Yukimura, since they play the most normal and perfect style of tennis seen in the series.

[Airgrimes]

You could just switch D1 and D2 and it should be definite wins for the BJB. Inui and Yanagi don't need to be able to react to Flower as long as they have the data and Niou/Oishi beat the twins who were above Washio/Suzuki.

EDIT: Or rather, given Inui against Twist Serve back in the days they still need a certain amount of skill to return Flower, but they should have that at that point.

Your right. After thought, Im satisfied with BJB's return and wiping 2nd Court since they would have done the same to 3rd Court.

[Fayte]

S3 - Sanada Genichiro VS Nakagauchi Sotomichi - Score LOL

This made me laugh so hard.