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Singles Tier List
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Last edited by Kaoz; June 18, 2014 at 02:20 AM.
Atobe Kingdom is a skill that hones in onto the opponent's absolute blind spots; the areas that their skeletons cannot allow them to reach at a given point in time. The only confirmed way we know of to overcome this technique is to dislocate one of your joints. You can't really "beat" this move. Even Jusaboro and Tsukimitsu had to "bear with it" for a while.
Surely if Tooyama cannot react to Atobe Kingdom, then Atobe will take several games.
Its only coz Tooyama has the Volcano Serve and Mountain Smash why he wont drop games.
They are both known to have amazing stamina.
So I was at first thinking Tooyama > Atobe. But now im not so sure.
We have however seen Sanada use Rai for what was over 9 games straight.
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Removed Oni after Kaoz told us that Kaji ''says beyond the black jack knife'' all beat up.
This means what we got against Nationals!Momoshiro doesnt even compare to what he can really do.
If he can do 10 ball return + Black Jack Knife then BEYOND it. We can't even measure his current abilities.
Just Troll!Irie's speed stat was 6, and Atobe Kingdom worked on him.
I don't know if Kintaro's speed is 6 or above, personally I cannot tell if it is above since we haven't had the stats of Oshitari Kenya, Kikumaru Eiji, Kamio Akira and Shishido Ryo's stats for comparison.
But personally I do not believe him faster than Kenya. So surely his wild speed cannot be caught in a single moment with the help of Atobe's Insight.
Considering Atobe can catch a Mach Serve through Insight which is a small ball moving beyond the eye speed of most players, I reckon he can catch a fast human with his insight.
Maybe if someday there's a SPOT game it'll have official stats... but that's dreaming too much.
Edit: oh and back to the Atobe vs Kintarou thing... I don't know, it's a match that we surely won't see (and if it happens, it'll have a lot of plot power involved) so I can't add anything to the AK vs Clones...
Last edited by Hardy; August 22, 2012 at 08:25 PM.
Otherwise, you can put in Irie in a position that was confirmed (as in, Irie vs Atobe match), and also put Oni in the spot that was confirm (vs Momoshiro+Kintarou)
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Kintarou and Kikumaru can. So I personally question Kamio's speed. But then a Databook did say he is Kanto's fastest.
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In all seriousness, if Atobe can catch a small ball with Insight moving faster than any player has moved in the series with his Insight.
I have a feeling he will catch a Wild Human.
I personally don't think wildness can stop Atobe's improved Insight. It's here now, that I can see Atobe's massive improvement.
You guys are also forgetting about Richard, who is probably about as fast as Kenya (basing this off the panels when the losers return, they both appear on the courts at the same time).
I forgot. Richard is possibly the epitome of fodder in this series so I forget about him.
Yeah Richard was said to be fast as hell. Richard relies on speed too.
I think it would make sense that Kenya and Richard being the fastest for the reason that they have no special shots. They rely 100% on Speed.
While Kamio, Kikumaru and Kintaro all have special shots.