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    Singles Tier List

    Singles Tier List

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    Only characters that had at least one match (or currently have one) are to be ranked. For Doubles, only players that played together before may be ranked.

    Concerning the Tier Lists for Prefecturals, Tokyo, Kanto and Nationals, the above criteria apply to the given time frame.
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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    I think it would make sense that Kenya and Richard being the fastest for the reason that they have no special shots. They rely 100% on Speed.

    While Kamio, Kikumaru and Kintaro all have special shots.
    Kamio's special shots are speed-based. He has to be the 2nd fastest in the series. I mean, he IS the fastest in Kanto (90 % of POT players are from Kanto) so that's quite an achievement.
    And I don't remember the last time that Sakata was said to be THAT FAST. Laughing like a hyena and having long legs are the only skills that he has shown. Oh, and running in zig zag (way to go Richard, Niou improves his copies, Momo has BJK, Atobe A.K., and you get zig zag).

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoz View Post
    As far as I know, the stats that were used in the PoT games have very little to do with actual ones and aren't by Konomi. So even if there is a SPoT game, I wouldn't take anything from there.
    As I said "that's dreaming too much :/'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji Kikumaru View Post
    Kamio's special shots are speed-based. He has to be the 2nd fastest in the series. I mean, he IS the fastest in Kanto (90 % of POT players are from Kanto) so that's quite an achievement.
    And I don't remember the last time that Sakata was said to be THAT FAST.
    Youv'e clearly completely forgotten this.
    http://i27.mangareader.net/prince-of...nis-646619.jpg

    When Kenya was so fast he teleported up on the Loser's return, Richard was right there with him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji Kikumaru View Post
    Laughing like a hyena and having long legs are the only skills that he has shown. Oh, and running in zig zag (way to go Richard, Niou improves his copies, Momo has BJK, Atobe A.K., and you get zig zag).
    Well... Kenya got balance (That sucks), Kabaji got... (Close to nothing), Oishi got... (Close to nothing),
    Shiraishi removed a freaking weight,
    Tachibana and Chitose got nothing although Washio/Suzuki mention a Synchro although we've heard nothing on that.
    Kirihara got nothing in terms of Singles.

    Not a big deal Richard just getting Zig Zag. Konomi has barely shown any MSers actually improving.
    All he has done is state there has been improvement.(Which sucks)

    I only hate Richard coz he tried to trip Tezuka leading me to believe he would be at least Kirihara level due to his arrogance.

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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Youv'e clearly completely forgotten this.
    http://i27.mangareader.net/prince-of...nis-646619.jpg

    When Kenya was so fast he teleported up on the Loser's return, Richard was right there with him.
    Sorry about that, I didn't read the full manga, just the anime. I'm still giving Kamio the second place until I see some more of that speed (but I have to admit that Richard is one of the fastest players around).

    And about the training thing... yes, Konomi has been kinda lazy with SPOT.
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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji Kikumaru View Post
    And about the training thing... yes, Konomi has been kinda lazy with SPOT.
    Exactly!!
    I thought only me and Letalhawk recognized that on here.

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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Exactly!!
    I thought only me and Letalhawk recognized that on here.
    Yes, Konomi didn't show up anything or how much they improved personally, it justs make me sick that he's so lazy, I also hate OPK but Konomi sure loves them and that ruins the whole storyline.

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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ken- View Post
    I don't think that matter. We also can't measure "serious" Irie true ability. It's entirely a secret. Yes, he beat no 20 with it. But Oni also beat (sub) no 5 with his serious self. Going by this logic, you should remove Irie as well.

    Otherwise, you can put in Irie in a position that was confirmed (as in, Irie vs Atobe match), and also put Oni in the spot that was confirm (vs Momoshiro+Kintarou)
    Neither Irie nor Oni have fully gotten serious and pushed into a corner I believe.
    Thinking back to Irie VS Akiba where Irie got serious coz his acting skills got dissed. We've never had anything like that yet lol.

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    ---------- Post added September 07, 2012 at 03:00 PM ---------- Previous post was September 05, 2012 at 07:31 AM ----------

    Fuwa Tetsuhito VS Chitose Senri

    Fuwa
    - Closed Eyes The ridiculous power that not only sharpens the players abilities greatly, Secondly, it completely breaks and counters Prediction based techniques. Meaning Saiki Kanpatsu no Kiwami cannot work against him.

    -Able to engage in a rally with Yukimura. Nationals!Tooyama was unable to go beyond a point.

    Chitose
    -Saiki Kanpatsu no Kiwami predicts the whole point, doesn't work against Closed Eyes

    -Muga no Kyouchi allows access to other Techniques.

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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    I think Chitose would win but Fuwa would give him a very hard time as SKNK won't work and he went with Yukimura into a long rally, but I still think that Muga No Kyouchi and maybe Hyakuren should be more than enough to defeat Fuwa.

    But I mean, Fuwa was blindfolded, if he didn't do that, the situation would have been like when Kintarou challenged Yukimura to a 1 point match. So maybe even if he rallyed with Yukimura, Tooyama maybe also did that and the Yips kicked in, also, Yips appear usually in long rallys, so maybe Kintarou rallyed for a while until the yips had effect on him.
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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Quote Originally Posted by LetalHawk View Post
    I think Chitose would win but Fuwa would give him a very hard time as SKNK won't work and he went with Yukimura into a long rally, but I still think that Muga No Kyouchi and maybe Hyakuren should be more than enough to defeat Fuwa.

    But I mean, Fuwa was blindfolded, if he didn't do that, the situation would have been like when Kintarou challenged Yukimura to a 1 point match. So maybe even if he rallyed with Yukimura, Tooyama maybe also did that and the Yips kicked in, also, Yips appear usually in long rallys, so maybe Kintarou rallyed for a while until the yips had effect on him.
    Um, Letal, Chitose only has Muga and Saiki, not Hyakuren...Even if he did have Hyakuren, he'd need to have Full Body Hyakuren in order for it to be effective as he lacks a Zone.

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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Quote Originally Posted by FrostyMouse View Post
    Um, Letal, Chitose only has Muga and Saiki, not Hyakuren...Even if he did have Hyakuren, he'd need to have Full Body Hyakuren in order for it to be effective as he lacks a Zone.

    Yeah I know it I just sayed if he did have that. I still think Muga would be effective against Fuwa.

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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Quote Originally Posted by LetalHawk View Post
    Yeah I know it I just sayed if he did have that. I still think Muga would be effective against Fuwa.
    Standard Muga would be enough you think?
    Considering he accessed Tightrope Walking whilst in Muga, it means he can probably access a variety of high level shots I guess.

    Also, Kamikakushi is thrown out since the effect of disappearing won't work if the opponents eyes are closed.
    Doesn't look good for Chitose.

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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Yeah, but also consider the tiring effects of Muga, Chitose's stamina runs out and Fuwa would adjust to Muga and then as Chitose can't use Saiki and Kamikakushi won't be a problem for Fuwa, unless Chitose improves, somehow, I don't think he can win, but maybe he could use high tier shots and win some games, but as his physical abilities limit him, he can't, or shouldn't be able to, use strong shots like Rai, Hadoukyuus... So yeah I don't know what he would do against Fuwa.
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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Why is Kenya better than Kikumaru, Tanishi, Jackal and Wakashi?

    And why is Gin still better than Taka?
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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji Kikumaru View Post
    Why is Kenya better than Kikumaru, Tanishi, Jackal and Wakashi?

    And why is Gin still better than Taka?
    Kamio > Sengoku. I believe Kamio is on the level of Tanishi/Chinen and Kikumaru.
    Remember Kenya is the fastest in the series. And as shown in the Nationals, Kenya > Kamio.

    Also, Kenya took 3 points off of Shiraishi in a tie-break. Could Hiyoshi, Tanishi or Kikumaru have done that?
    It was Kaoz that argued for him to be there, I want him below Jackal.

    Tanishi lost to Chinen in the tie-breaks, so despite his improvement from the Mountains, he and Chinen are so far cited as the 'same level'.
    The lower Higa guys are all one level. (Tanishi, Chinen and Kai).
    Standard Shukuchiho isn't hard to seal. Kikumaru did easily. So Tanishi and Kikumaru are in roughly the same place.

    I really don't know what to do with Kenya as he was near useless in the BJB revolution against Hara/Taira.

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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Kamio > Sengoku. I believe Kamio is on the level of Tanishi/Chinen and Kikumaru.
    Remember Kenya is the fastest in the series. And as shown in the Nationals, Kenya > Kamio.
    Yup

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    Also, Kenya took 3 points off of Shiraishi in a tie-break. Could Hiyoshi, Tanishi or Kikumaru have done that?
    Well, you are the ones that made me think that Wakashi is a player capable of rallying and giving a fight against Atobe, Ryoma, Kirihara and Davide (though he lost all those maches) so he'll probably get some points. Tanishi has big bang, that might get 2 or 3 points. And Kikumaru is Kikumaru lol, we have only seen him playing official singles once, yet I don't see any disavantages when I compare him with Kenya (besides speed).

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    It was Kaoz that argued for him to be there, I want him below Jackal.
    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Airgrimes View Post
    The lower Higa guys are all one level. (Tanishi, Chinen and Kai).
    I agree...


    Again, why is Taka below Gin and Shishido one place higher than Chotarou?

    Edit: completely offtopic, but I miss the old Sengoku. He used to be the 6th best player in Kanto (or something like that) :/
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    Re: Tier List (Singles and Doubles)

    Gin > Kawamura because they are so similar that they should perform the same against everyone else and Gin can cancel Kawamura's Hadokyuus in the direct confrontation.

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